Statement Regarding My Involvement with Jack Peptides & Vanguard Testing
Many of you know me as one of the admins of the Jack Peptides Telegram community. As of today, my admin privileges have been revoked, I have been removed from the main group, the independent testing group, and the admin chat, and all of my previous messages have been deleted. The other admins, REDACTED, have also been removed, and Jack has completely deleted our personal DMs on both sides for all of us. I am incredibly surprised and disappointed that this is happening to me. After everything I put into building this space, I genuinely did not expect to be completely cut out like this.
The attached are the 11 of the 12 Vanguard COAs that Jack sent to me for discussion on whether to release or not. We are missing one NAD+ 500mg report which I believe Vanguard is still testing.
Given my involvement with Jack Peptides since the creation of the Telegram group, I want to provide the community with a clear, transparent record of what I know, what I personally observed, and the sequence of events leading up to these results.
I did not start out supporting Jack Peptides; my first interactions actually involved questioning him. Because I can communicate in Chinese, our communication naturally grew more direct over time. I eventually stepped in to help bridge the language gap by translating between English and Chinese, setting up the Telegram group and channels, writing announcements, and helping manage the community. I basically helped him navigate the grey market and gave him access to different supplier price lists so he could keep updated and stay competitive.
I heavily promoted this vendor because I believed in the potential of the relationship. I hoped that by building a structured partnership and leveraging our group's size, we could negotiate better pricing, secure customized products, and demand greater transparency for the community, alongside getting free shipping and other incentives in product credits for my own purchases and additional personal discounts.
Several factors built my initial confidence in this vendor. When members originally questioned the Sulan COAs, Jack assured me they were genuine and shared screenshots of conversations to show he was an authorized distributor. I took this information at face value. Jack also regularly shared positive private reviews with me via WhatsApp. Furthermore, our Telegram review section was filled with successful touchdown posts and highly positive feedback, including one member reporting that 0.25 mg of Jack's Reta felt more potent than 12 mg of standard tirzepatide.
I personally witnessed Jack making genuine efforts to fix logistical errors. For example, a customer ordered from the US warehouse expecting it to be shipped fast to Hawaii. However, sea shipping was elected by the US warehouse staff instead, meaning it was going to take up to 20 days, which was completely unacceptable. Jack arranged another shipment via air at no cost, resulting in the customer getting both the air and sea shipments. He also shared with me via DM that, at his own initiative, he arranged replacements at zero cost to customers who he suspected had received underdosed peptides from a warehouse that he transferred goods from (which had a different label style). This was based on a COA sent to him by a customer that showed that specific label style of the product was underdosed. This was also confirmed by one of our admins @lspano as he had the same problem.
The community itself grew into a genuinely enjoyable space where members shared funny jokes, protocols, pet pictures, gym progress, and daily life, and we even had many members say this was the best community. Based on this track record of customer care and positive feedback over the past weeks, I fully expected the lab tests to return excellent results.
When we decided to get some vendor COAs, Jack sent 12 product kits to a US guy that I know through a mutual peptide group because he stayed near Vanguard Laboratory. He submitted one vial from each kit to Vanguard Laboratory and kept the remaining unopened vials as a compensation for his help, which was beyond generous: 12 free kits minus just 1 vial from each. The process was straightforward and communication was prompt.
The results were a complete surprise to me. Given the weeks of positive feedback and my direct interactions with Jack, I did not expect the laboratory data to look the way it does.
The reports were originally expected to be released earlier. When Jack sent them to me to discuss whether to release them or not, I told him we definitely must release them. He then told me to delay it, explaining that the products submitted for testing came from the US warehouse and did not accurately represent the stock currently shipping out of the China warehouse.
This explanation surprised me. My understanding from our previous conversations was that the US warehouse inventory had been supplied directly from the China stock. Personally, I found it difficult to reconcile how the tested products could be significantly different from the products currently shipping. The final breaking straw was being told that the US warehouse stock sent for testing and the China warehouse stock are not the same, leaving a clear contradiction between the test data and the inventory updates we had previously been given.
Shortly after that conversation, my admin access was revoked, I was removed from the main group, the testing group, and the admin chat, and my message history was wiped. @REDACTED and @REDACTED were removed at the same time.
At this moment, I do not know if Jack Peptides intends to address these findings or resolve the issues with the community.
Many of you have seen my endless shiny stickers and aggressive marketing, which included videos, memes, and telegram stickers from the very beginning. For that reason, I owe it to you to share these facts cleanly.
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various labels slapped on the same peps....and then there's the price. Way too cheap - that's a red flag.
