Ipamorelin + CJC 1295 experiences
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hoochiscrazy
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Starting mine shortly as well, so I am all ears for other people's experiences!
Not_Your_Dad
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I've been running CJC1295 without DAC alongside Ipa for 4 weeks now.
The plan was a 5/5 blend, but the lab results showed closer to 6/5, so my CJC intake is a bit higher than intended.
Each injection has 0.546 mg CJC and 0.406 mg IPA, done AM and PM; I aim to keep the morning shot fasted. With the evening shot I also take 2 mg of Tesamorelin.
Since beginning the CJC/Ipa, my energy has gone up a lot and my mindset has been more positive. I'm not doing any strength training right now, yet I've seen minor gains in muscle mass.
If you have any other questions, I'm glad to answer them.
The plan was a 5/5 blend, but the lab results showed closer to 6/5, so my CJC intake is a bit higher than intended.
Each injection has 0.546 mg CJC and 0.406 mg IPA, done AM and PM; I aim to keep the morning shot fasted. With the evening shot I also take 2 mg of Tesamorelin.
Since beginning the CJC/Ipa, my energy has gone up a lot and my mindset has been more positive. I'm not doing any strength training right now, yet I've seen minor gains in muscle mass.
If you have any other questions, I'm glad to answer them.
How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
I'm trying to work out whether this stack gives less and less back as you age. Take a 60 year old versus a 30 year old — does the older one still get the same amount of GH released? And at what age do secretagogues stop being worth the cash next to plain GH?
joseblo
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From what I gather, testing your IGH-1 levels before, while on, and after the ipa-cjc stack is the surest way to find out. Cycles of 5on/2off and 1m-on/1m-off come up often. Age determines standard min/max hormone ranges, yet those in the anti-aging world are clearly fans. Do a search and you'll see.
Secretogoblin-wise, cjc and tesa perform essentially the same function.
The thing I'm curious about: are you hungry? Do you stack tirz or reta?
Seemingly, the hormone boosters can cut GLP1 effects down quite a bit.
Secretogoblin-wise, cjc and tesa perform essentially the same function.
The thing I'm curious about: are you hungry? Do you stack tirz or reta?
Seemingly, the hormone boosters can cut GLP1 effects down quite a bit.
Main75
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My Reta results were great, but for the past month they've stalled completely. Could be a bad batch (I switched suppliers), or maybe it's because I added Ipamorelin
Not_Your_Dad
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I'll do my best to cover everything in a single response!
1. Age - 45. I realize that straight GH would likely be the superior option for someone at my age, but the degree of risk involved is something I'm not willing to accept, so GH is off the table for me.
2. Hunger - yes, greater than one would anticipate without the secretagogues, though still manageable. I've been on Tirz for a long time and am currently in the middle of titrating up Reta. Monday I pinned roughly 3.5 mg Tirz, and today 6 mg Reta.
3. Flushing - moderate after the CJC/IPA pin, pronounced after the Tesa pin. Both tend to be somewhat itchy and uncomfortable in my case; not severe enough to make me end the cycle early, but I certainly wouldn't do this recreationally. By comparison, I've never gotten any ISR from Tirz, Reta, or my GHK-cu/KPV homebrew.
4. Mass on scale - essentially unchanged. I can perceive differences from the GHs, for instance I'm aware my abdomen has gotten smaller (I've been taking measurements), waist size going down, and so on. I'd really like to get a DEXA scan done, but the nearest one is a 2.5 hour drive away and costs $200.
5. Cycle - my plan is to discontinue the CJC/IPA once the Tesa is used up. That should land around 55 days. After that I'll let it wash out for a minimum of a month before I even think about additional GH secretagogues.
1. Age - 45. I realize that straight GH would likely be the superior option for someone at my age, but the degree of risk involved is something I'm not willing to accept, so GH is off the table for me.
2. Hunger - yes, greater than one would anticipate without the secretagogues, though still manageable. I've been on Tirz for a long time and am currently in the middle of titrating up Reta. Monday I pinned roughly 3.5 mg Tirz, and today 6 mg Reta.
3. Flushing - moderate after the CJC/IPA pin, pronounced after the Tesa pin. Both tend to be somewhat itchy and uncomfortable in my case; not severe enough to make me end the cycle early, but I certainly wouldn't do this recreationally. By comparison, I've never gotten any ISR from Tirz, Reta, or my GHK-cu/KPV homebrew.
4. Mass on scale - essentially unchanged. I can perceive differences from the GHs, for instance I'm aware my abdomen has gotten smaller (I've been taking measurements), waist size going down, and so on. I'd really like to get a DEXA scan done, but the nearest one is a 2.5 hour drive away and costs $200.
5. Cycle - my plan is to discontinue the CJC/IPA once the Tesa is used up. That should land around 55 days. After that I'll let it wash out for a minimum of a month before I even think about additional GH secretagogues.
It strikes me as notable that the flushing from cjc/ipa is mild while tesa produces intense flushing. Have you given Zyrtec a shot to deal with the histamine reaction?
A university in my area does dexa scans for $50. Perhaps a university close to you offers something along those lines.
Before starting something such as ipamorelin, getting an initial IGF-1 reading is genuinely important.
Typical healthy IGF-1 reference ranges (ng/mL):
For additional context....if your IGF1 is already beyond the optimal window, tesa is actually more potent when it comes to driving insulin resistance up
The key point here is that knowing your reason for using a compound matters a lot, rather than simply copying a trend or a protocol.
Typical healthy IGF-1 reference ranges (ng/mL):
- 20–30 years old: 200–350
- 31–50 years old: 175–300
- 51–65 years old: 150–250
- 66 and older: 125–200
For additional context....if your IGF1 is already beyond the optimal window, tesa is actually more potent when it comes to driving insulin resistance up
The key point here is that knowing your reason for using a compound matters a lot, rather than simply copying a trend or a protocol.
Main75
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I was only on Reta and my appetite was excellent up until …
A fresh Reta batch
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I began ipa
Gained 9 lbs, and the scale has stayed stuck there, even after I raised Reta from 6 to 8 last week
tallclarknhandsome
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For me, the effects are pretty minimal. Sleep might be a touch improved. I began in November, and I'm 47 years old. Looking back, I'd have skipped straight to hgh. Unlike mk 677, it doesn't seem to spark much appetite for me. There is flushing, though—and honestly, I like that flush.
Not_Your_Dad
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Could you share where this data comes from? I'm not trying to dispute what you're saying—just honestly interested.
Not_Your_Dad
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No — flushing was never an issue for me.
Stopping Tesa happened pretty suddenly, though: across 3 nights I woke with migraines that kept getting worse (by night 3 I nearly went to the emergency room); then it clicked that ISRs from Tesa injections 5+ days earlier were still ongoing. Figuring something was misfiring, I dropped the Tesa. Roughly a week has passed and there have been no migraines.
That's a reasonable thing to ask, and I believe I can steer you toward the right sources without much trouble.... The encouraging part is that this information isn't fringe or disputed — it falls squarely within well-documented endocrinology. If you'd like to explore it yourself, here are some useful phrases to search for:
• growth hormone insulin resistance
• GH antagonizes insulin action
• IGF-1 age-adjusted reference ranges
• acromegaly glucose intolerance diabetes
• tesamorelin fasting glucose HbA1c clinical trials
• GH secretagogues glucose metabolism
These mechanisms, the standard reference intervals for labs, and the data from human trials have existed for many decades and can readily be located in review articles and clinical practice guidelines.
Not_Your_Dad
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Appreciate it, buddy!
I dove right in without really thinking it through. I'll take some time to read up, learn, and tweak a few things.