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Hi, basically the title. I recently got ahold of this place and realised that I can get tirz for a fraction of the price i would get it prescribed, and it feels really guilty to me because my mom (who has had a very hard life) is now 56 and morbidly obese and I just know that this medication would save her life, but I am reluctant on introducing her on it because

1. She absolutely refuses to be seen by doctors/weigh herself/ have blood test done (which is something i would be able to talk her into before getting her on the injections) and

2. She is a bit of big mouth and I just know that she would go left and right telling everyone that I offer her the medication and so on and so forth and people would start questioning - if other family members would know I want to save her by getting her grey stuff, they would heavily condone me for it - not because they care too much about her, but because they would envy the help she gets and

3. I am afraid that the medication would provoke her further health issues and I could be responsible for it

For reference, she is 56, about 120kg (minimum) and around 165cm.

Any advice is appreciated!
 
Purpletree said:


Hi, basically the title. I recently got ahold of this place and realised that I can get tirz for a fraction of the price i would get it prescribed, and it feels really guilty to me because my mom (who has had a very hard life) is now 56 and morbidly obese and I just know that this medication would save her life, but I am reluctant on introducing her on it because

1. She absolutely refuses to be seen by doctors/weigh herself/ have blood test done (which is something i would be able to talk her into before getting her on the injections) and

2. She is a bit of big mouth and I just know that she would go left and right telling everyone that I offer her the medication and so on and so forth and people would start questioning - if other family members would know I want to save her by getting her grey stuff, they would heavily condone me for it - not because they care too much about her, but because they would envy the help she gets and

3. I am afraid that the medication would provoke her further health issues and I could be responsible for it

For reference, she is 56, about 120kg (minimum) and around 165cm.

Any advice is appreciated!

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I would read up on the other benefits of GLP1s, there is much more than just weight loss.

Once you have a good amount of info, maybe introduce her to some legit studies on what it can do.

Sharing meds is a scary road to go down, but sharing benefits might save her life.

Then maybe she can start with a prescription form somewhere and you can take this in steps.

Have you used GLP1s? Do you know anyone that has shown benefit?

Sometimes the best way to get someone to consider is to see how well it works.

I would definitely be hesitant to just give her gray as a first step; based on your info.
 
People questioning doesn't mean you have to answer. I don't know anything about your culture, but you could try saying you are not comfortable talking about your mother's health as it is a personal issue. Then change the subject.
 
I sat my mom down and went over what I do myself. I gave her the research sites that I myself used and asked her if she was interested. She reassured me she was so I asked her to research and weigh it out for herself, she did that and made the choice herself to try peps. Today she is happy she did and I am happy that I gave her the resources and let her make her own decision
 
Skidude said:


I would read up on the other benefits of GLP1s, there is much more than just weight loss.

Once you have a good amount of info, maybe introduce her to some legit studies on what it can do.

Sharing meds is a scary road to go down, but sharing benefits might save her life.

Then maybe she can start with a prescription form somewhere and you can take this in steps.

Have you used GLP1s? Do you know anyone that has shown benefit?

Sometimes the best way to get someone to consider is to see how well it works.

I would definitely be hesitant to just give her gray as a first step; based on your info.

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Thank you for your insight. I am on it, tomorrow will be my 4th shot, but I never bought a prescribed one. I had one from a compound-ish pharmacy. In my country they are hella expensive, and once this vial will be over, my first order from grey should arrive.

I did do my labs, and went to an endocrinologist and he even recommend that I get on to the medication because of the constant food noise and the failed attempts to count calories, the only thing is that I don’t source it from a traditional pharmacy. Other than that, i will keep in touch with my doctor and have regular blood work and checkups. I also lost over 3kg so far haha.
 
CJsMom said:


People questioning doesn't mean you have to answer. I don't know anything about your culture, but you could try saying you are not comfortable talking about your mother's health as it is a personal issue. Then change the subject.

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Unfortunately I wouldn’t be the one being questioned, she would. And she would answer because she would feel threatened. No one would question me as long as everything would go smoothly. If something were to go forth though, that’s a completely different story, especially my sister who I am not in good relations with 😢
 
SeaGypsy said:


I sat my mom down and went over what I do myself. I gave her the research sites that I myself used and asked her if she was interested. She reassured me she was so I asked her to research and weigh it out for herself, she did that and made the choice herself to try peps. Today she is happy she did and I am happy that I gave her the resources and let her make her own decision

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Thank you! Is your mom of a similar age? Was she a similar weight when you started having her on the meds? How is she doing?
 
Purpletree said:


Hi, basically the title. I recently got ahold of this place and realised that I can get tirz for a fraction of the price i would get it prescribed, and it feels really guilty to me because my mom (who has had a very hard life) is now 56 and morbidly obese and I just know that this medication would save her life, but I am reluctant on introducing her on it because

1. She absolutely refuses to be seen by doctors/weigh herself/ have blood test done (which is something i would be able to talk her into before getting her on the injections) and

2. She is a bit of big mouth and I just know that she would go left and right telling everyone that I offer her the medication and so on and so forth and people would start questioning - if other family members would know I want to save her by getting her grey stuff, they would heavily condone me for it - not because they care too much about her, but because they would envy the help she gets and

3. I am afraid that the medication would provoke her further health issues and I could be responsible for it

For reference, she is 56, about 120kg (minimum) and around 165cm.

Any advice is appreciated!

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That's a tough one. Although, I understand it. My mom is like that. She doesn't like going to the doctor. She's on compounded tirzepatide. It was easier to convince her about tirzepa than of going to the doctor. She doesn't want to go to the doctor because she's afraid of being told that there's something wrong with her. When I brought up the subject, it turned out that she was curious. Social media did most of the work. She had been reading about it herself. I dropped into the conversation that my wife was on it and then eventually she asked if we could get her some.

So, action items for you:

a) Even if she doesn't want to go to the doctor, she might be okay just starting on the medication.

b) Have you asked her about it? What she knows about it?

c) Are you on tirzepa? Is there someone in your social circle that you can casually work into a conversation to see where she's at?

d) Is compounded an option for your? Maybe you can ease her into compounded and then transition to grey?

e) You can't do anything about her blabing and your family judging your. If you can convince your mom, the results will speak for themselves and you'll have the last laugh. So best to just ignore them.
 
Purpletree said:


Thank you for your insight. I am on it, tomorrow will be my 4th shot, but I never bought a prescribed one. I had one from a compound-ish pharmacy. In my country they are hella expensive, and once this vial will be over, my first order from grey should arrive.

I did do my labs, and went to an endocrinologist and he even recommend that I get on to the medication because of the constant food noise and the failed attempts to count calories, the only thing is that I don’t source it from a traditional pharmacy. Other than that, i will keep in touch with my doctor and have regular blood work and checkups. I also lost over 3kg so far haha.

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There are guidelines for compound/telehealth, but I was approved without labs, which I think is quite common.

I believe mine asked if there was a history of eating disorders as well..

Here is an example of questions to ask:

Telehealth providers evaluate tirzepatide (Mounjaro or Zepbound) eligibility through a comprehensive medical intake questionnaire and live consultation to ensure it is safe for you. You will be asked about your height, weight, BMI, history of thyroid cancer, pancreatitis, allergies, current medications, and any prior weight loss attempts. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

To get a complete picture of your metabolic and overall health, you can expect the online provider to ask for the following details during your virtual screening:

Key Health History & Screening Questions

    • Diabetes Status: Do you have a confirmed diagnosis of Type 2 diabetes?
    • Weight Metrics: What is your current weight, height, and body mass index (BMI)?
    • Absolute Contraindications: Do you or anyone in your family have a history of Medullary Thyroid Carcinoma (MTC) or Multiple Endocrine Neoplasia syndrome type 2 (MEN 2)? [1]
    • Pancreas & Gallbladder: Have you ever had inflammation of the pancreas (pancreatitis), gallbladder disease, or severe kidney/liver issues? [1, 2]
    • Gastrointestinal Health: Do you suffer from severe gastrointestinal diseases, such as gastroparesis? [1]
    • Pregnancy & Nursing: Are you pregnant, planning to become pregnant, or currently breastfeeding?
    • Medications: Are you currently taking any other weight-loss treatments, insulin, or oral diabetes medications? Do you take medications that are absorbed slowly in the stomach? [1, 2]
    • Allergies: Do you have any known allergies to tirzepatide or other GLP-1/GIP receptor agonists?
 
Purpletree said:


Thank you! Is your mom of a similar age? Was she a similar weight when you started having her on the meds? How is she doing?

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My mom is in her 70s. She isn't really big, she is on very low dose Tirz for minor weightloss but mostly inflammation benefits and GLOW to help overall especially with her joints. She is doing great, she has lost a little weight but primarily her joints feel much better and she isn't hurting everyday anymore.
 
juanmecha said:


That's a tough one. Although, I understand it. My mom is like that. She doesn't like going to the doctor. She's on compounded tirzepatide. It was easier to convince her about tirzepa than of going to the doctor. She doesn't want to go to the doctor because she's afraid of being told that there's something wrong with her. When I brought up the subject, it turned out that she was curious. Social media did most of the work. She had been reading about it herself. I dropped into the conversation that my wife was on it and then eventually she asked if we could get her some.

So, action items for you:

a) Even if she doesn't want to go to the doctor, she might be okay just starting on the medication.

b) Have you asked her about it? What she knows about it?

c) Are you on tirzepa? Is there someone in your social circle that you can casually work into a conversation to see where she's at?

d) Is compounded an option for your? Maybe you can ease her into compounded and then transition to grey?

e) You can't do anything about her blabing and your family judging your. If you can convince your mom, the results will speak for themselves and you'll have the last laugh. So best to just ignore them.

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My mom refuses to go to the doctors for the exact same reason lol. She is afraid that they might find something wrong with her. I hate when she says that!

I highly doubt that she knows anything about it but I will soft launch a conversation about it because the news at the tv has had nonstop discussions about mounjaro pens (the prescribed ones). Thank you!
 
Purpletree said:


She is a bit of big mouth and I just know that she would go left and right telling everyone that I offer her the medication and so on and so forth and people would start questioning - if other family members would know I want to save her by getting her grey stuff, they would heavily condone me for it -

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IMO this isn’t a Glp-1 question. If a person can’t keep a secret then a natural consequence is people don't share secrets with them. It’s a boundary and especially if it’s someone you’re close to, it’s hard to keep boundaries. My sister is the same. If you don’t want a secret blown you don’t tell her.

And it’s not your fault they’re kept in their dark; it’s a reflection of their past actions. “You’re keeping this from me” well yes, because of your past actions.

Don’t put water in a bucket full of holes and expect it to stay put.

Sister and I got to talking about peptides so I shared an entry-level supplier and that was it.

If your mom ran into problems with the GLP-1 would she go to prompt care? Or seek any help? It’s not without side effects. Not everyone is successful.

She needs to go to the doctor. Starting a grey med isn’t going to change the problem of not knowing how healthy or sick she is.
 
SeaGypsy said:


My mom is in her 70s. She isn't really big, she is on very low dose Tirz for minor weightloss but mostly inflammation benefits and GLOW to help overall especially with her joints. She is doing great, she has lost a little weight but primarily her joints feel much better and she isn't hurting everyday anymore.

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Yeah, that makes complete sense! My mom has all over the body aches, shoulders, back, knees (understandable, as she is carrying all that weight)….thanks!
 
SeaGypsy said:


My mom is in her 70s. She isn't really big, she is on very low dose Tirz for minor weightloss but mostly inflammation benefits and GLOW to help overall especially with her joints. She is doing great, she has lost a little weight but primarily her joints feel much better and she isn't hurting everyday anymore.

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Do you help your mom with the reconstitution and dosing? My mom is 76 and I don't think that she could handle all of that. But she lives far away so I haven't really talked to her about these things because I don't want her to be tempted and then sicken herself.
 
City Badger said:


Do you help your mom with the reconstitution and dosing? My mom is 76 and I don't think that she could handle all of that. But she lives far away so I haven't really talked to her about these things because I don't want her to be tempted and then sicken herself.

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I am to far away from mine as well. But I did go there and we went over each and every step and she wrote it down as we went along. She wrote down every tiny detail then under my direction performed each step. She does it herself now. The first couple times she did it when I wasn't there she called me and we FaceTime. My job was to watch and make sure she did everything right according to her written steps. Now she is flying solo and if she needs she can call me.

I also gave her the list of all the supplies...syringes, needles...etc.

On and since my last visit she now uses a pen and we went over the pen inductions for filling the cartridge the same way as above.
 
My Tirzepatide use is on Facebook where every single family member I've got can see it except my mom, who isn't on Facebook, and my grandmother who gets her gossip from her daughters. I have some absolute jackals in the generation above me (none in my own, I'm the only daughter of the oldest son, and my cousins have always known me as older and strong), and I don't even know what it's like to be afraid of what they might think. They have zero power over me and are helpless to impact my life in any way. The only thing they have the ability to do is make snotty remarks, and a lifetime of teaching them that there's no such thing as a "free" shot at me has made them wise enough not to risk it.

There WAS, however, a recent incident where my aunt downloaded my much-thinner-now pics from Facebook and showed them to my grandmother for the fun of clucking over how I'm too thin and have to stop and pretending to be worried. That blew up on her when my grandmother, who has the discretion of a car alarm, called up my mother to tell her all about it and...ask her to make me stop? (I told my mom "their bitterness feeds me and makes me whole," and she said well, you'll never go hungry cause there's plenty to go around). My aunt knows what my grandmother did, and the old coward is laying low for fear I'll let her have it. I won't, I don't care what she says as long as she doesn't bother ME with it, but it makes me happy to know she's going through discomfort as a result of her own bad behavior.
 
@randompersonrandom, they say every oldest daughter is her father, and I'm also the only daughter of the oldest son (my dad was the oldest of ten), and there is just something temperamentally about us that limits the family's ability to intimidate us 😂
 
randompersonrandom said:


There WAS, however, a recent incident where my aunt downloaded my much-thinner-now pics from Facebook and showed them to my grandmother for the fun of clucking over how I'm too thin and have to stop and pretending to be worried.

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Wait a minute, your aunt went and tattled on you!? 😂😂😂

I'm loving your grandmother ❤️
 
randompersonrandom said:


"their bitterness feeds me and makes me whole,"

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Bitterness is usually the motivation behind most of this type of jealousy. It's a manifestation of their own discomfort at wishing that they had the courage that you have.

It is rooted in envy.
 
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