How do we feel about waist to hip ratios?

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I recently passed the 1yr mark on peptide use without making it to goal. I've been deliberately finding both objective and subjective aspects of my current form to celebrate, appreciate, or even just notice as a means of staving off the 'grief' of not making goal.

Waist to hip ratio popped into my head as a health metric I've heard of but never tracked. I used this Waist to Hip Calculator with my current measurements and did not find reason to celebrate. I'm still in the red zone.

So is anyone using waist to hip ratio to help pick a goal weight? I know some of you are quite scholarly. Anyone have papers or studies that support or undermine this number as a useful health indicator?
 
ive never heard of that calculator, but I just wanted to address your other content. I see you have lost 32%. That is a HUGE accomplishment!! Random internet stranger is so proud of you! you are literally lost 1/3 of the weight you were ONE year ago.. no small feat!!! I'd imagine there are times where your body pumps the breaks to say, WHOA, are you good? All designed by nature. Keep up the great work, and keep headed toward that goal with the confidence that YOU ARE DOING GREAT!!! I will check out the calculator..

Most useful health indicator IMO is, are you doing good things or bad things for your health? Right now, Id say you are doing good 🙂
 
M or F?

I'm really happy to be (way) below a meter in circumference.

The only statistic that interested me was the study conducted on the centerfold Playmates, which showed that they had a ratio of around 65-67%.
 
I don't give a shit about hip to waste ratio. Or any other metrics like that. Wemon are constantly judged by stuff like this. Social media constantly influences people to look a certian way, it pathetic. When i was a kid, i was brainwashed to believe rail skinny blonde's with giant fake tits are whats considered attractive. For a while obesity was glamorized. Trendy cloths style is stupid enough, where what you like, thats whats in style for you. Trendy body shape, well thats destroying people. You can only control your body shape to an extent. Everyone has a different shape. When you feal right you feal right. If you have to look a certain way to feal right, then maybe you should surround yourself with people who are more supportive to your self esteem? You lost a lot of wieght, your a bad ass in my book. I don't need t know what your shape is. Be happy with the best you, you want to be.
 
Shittersfull said:


I don't give a shit about hip to waste ratio. Or any other metrics like that. Wemon are constantly judged by stuff like this. Social media constantly influences people to look a certian way, it pathetic. When i was a kid, i was brainwashed to believe rail skinny blonde's with giant fake tits are whats considered attractive. For a while obesity was glamorized. Trendy cloths style is stupid enough, where what you like, thats whats in style for you. Trendy body shape, well thats destroying people. You can only control your body shape to an extent. Everyone has a different shape. When you feal right you feal right. If you have to look a certain way to feal right, then maybe you should surround yourself with people who are more supportive to your self esteem? You lost a lot of wieght, your a bad ass in my book. I don't need t know what your shape is. Be happy with the best you, you want to be.

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shittersfull ain't full of shit. That is 100% facts right there!
 
Shittersfull said:


I don't give a shit about hip to waste ratio. Or any other metrics like that. Wemon are constantly judged by stuff like this. Social media constantly influences people to look a certian way, it pathetic. When i was a kid, i was brainwashed to believe rail skinny blonde's with giant fake tits are whats considered attractive. For a while obesity was glamorized. Trendy cloths style is stupid enough, where what you like, thats whats in style for you. Trendy body shape, well thats destroying people. You can only control your body shape to an extent. Everyone has a different shape. When you feal right you feal right. If you have to look a certain way to feal right, then maybe you should surround yourself with people who are more supportive to your self esteem? You lost a lot of wieght, your a bad ass in my book. I don't need t know what your shape is. Be happy with the best you, you want to be.

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I think the calculator and presumably OP's post is about the health risk implications of waist/hip ratio, not going for a particular shape/look/kardashian booty.
 
Shittersfull said:


I don't give a shit about hip to waste ratio. Or any other metrics like that. Wemon are constantly judged by stuff like this. Social media constantly influences people to look a certian way, it pathetic. When i was a kid, i was brainwashed to believe rail skinny blonde's with giant fake tits are whats considered attractive. For a while obesity was glamorized. Trendy cloths style is stupid enough, where what you like, thats whats in style for you. Trendy body shape, well thats destroying people. You can only control your body shape to an extent. Everyone has a different shape. When you feal right you feal right. If you have to look a certain way to feal right, then maybe you should surround yourself with people who are more supportive to your self esteem? You lost a lot of wieght, your a bad ass in my book. I don't need t know what your shape is. Be happy with the best you, you want to be.

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I feel like you've touched on something I could never really articulate about my disinterest WHR. BMI feels pretty sexually neutral to me, and doesn't require anything besides "stand there on that square." But WHR, despite its arguably great implications in terms of health, always, ALWAYS gets presented to women in terms of fuckability and it feels undignified. Measure your body parts and do math to find out your fuckability number, ladies! No...no thank you, I don't need a number assigned to that, I'll just weigh myself.
 
Honestly the though didn't even cross my mind that the hip/waste ratio could even possibly have anything to do with health. There people with big asses and tiny wastes that are both healthy and unhealthy. There are people with tiny asses and big wastes that are healthy, and vis versa. At this piont I am curious about the OP's thoughts on the matter?
 
AllCourtTENNIS said:


I recently passed the 1yr mark on peptide use without making it to goal. I've been deliberately finding both objective and subjective aspects of my current form to celebrate, appreciate, or even just notice as a means of staving off the 'grief' of not making goal.

Waist to hip ratio popped into my head as a health metric I've heard of but never tracked. I used this Waist to Hip Calculator with my current measurements and did not find reason to celebrate. I'm still in the red zone.

So is anyone using waist to hip ratio to help pick a goal weight? I know some of you are quite scholarly. Anyone have papers or studies that support or undermine this number as a useful health indicator?

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That is what the US military used when I served. So I use it still.
 
Shittersfull said:


Honestly the though didn't even cross my mind that the hip/waste ratio could even possibly have anything to do with health. There people with big asses and tiny wastes that are both healthy and unhealthy. There are people with tiny asses and big wastes that are healthy, and vis versa. At this piont I am curious about the OP's thoughts on the matter?

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I don't know what year it started, but the basics are:

above 0.80 for women or 0.90 for men

increased risk of stroke, cancer, t2d, and heart attack

I could be off on the numbers.

I looked up a calculator yesterday but didn't look for any current research. I thought people here would know more about it than I do. I also thought it might be a guideline for choosing when to start maintenance. For my height, the healthy BMI range is about 40lbs wide. I had vague ideas of a Venn diagram of healthy BMI and healthy waist/hip that might narrow that.

I feel a bit stupid that the Kardashian ass of it all didn't even cross my mind.
 
I have often heard that having extra weight in the midsection is a sign of poor health.

It seems like we are discussing 2 things in this thread, health and conventional beauty standards.

While most of us here are health conscience, there is little doubt that beauty standards play a major role in the motivation to lose weight.

As for HWR as it applies to beauty standards, my opinion is it is like ice cream, lots of different flavors and I love most!

I have known many women who may be conventionally beautiful but are entirely unattractive for their personality; the opposite also applies.. I have crushed hard on some that did not meet traditional standards.

As for health, there is no doubt that having certain ratios are a sign of potential issues, here is an example of that from Harvard health



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Why worry about your waistline? - Harvard Health



Growing numbers of Americans now have abdominal obesity (as measured by a large waist size), which puts them at a higher risk of cardiovascular disease....

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www.health.harvard.edu

Excess fat around your midsection is especially dangerous for your heart.​For decades, experts have warned that a big belly is more harmful to your heart than extra padding in your hips and thighs. A growing number of Americans now sport this unhealthy "apple-shaped" profile, according to the latest statistics from the CDC.

The average waist circumference for men is now 40.2 inches, up from the 39 inches recorded in the last survey, which was done in 1999–2000. Women's waist measurements also rose — from an average of 36.3 to 38.6 inches. That means that a majority of Americans now have belly sizes that put them at high risk (see "Gut check: How to measure your midsection").

"As your waistline expands, so does your risk of cardiovascular disease," explains Dr. Osama Hamdy, medical director of the Obesity Clinical Program at Harvard-affiliated Joslin Diabetes Center. Belly fat — what doctors refer to as visceral fat — turns out to be very different from fat that accumulates in the hips and thighs, he explains. But even though some people are predisposed to larger midsections, there's a lot you can do to remedy the problem

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I initially thought I needed to lose like 50-60#. When I did, I was still fat. So I changed my goal to 5# increments. If I was 200, the next goal was 194.5. Ended up dropping 40 more lbs.

5 is a lot easier to achieve than 200. Small victories.

Now I don’t have a number at all. I have a goal physique. And it’ll likely take a couple years.
 
Waist to hip ratio is more of an aesthetic perspective amd deoends on your body's shape. I am a female with almost no hips and weight gravitates to my belly. My ratio is not very "feminine" nor does it reflect a healthy/unhealthy weight regardless of my BMI. At my thinnest I have the shape of an olympic gymnast. I have a cousin whose BMI classifies her as borderline obese but her waist is super tiny even though her hips and bum are obscenely huge.
 
I understand what you are saying here, but I wouldn't put arbitrary timelines or numbers on our health like that. I have a normal HWR, but my weight, BMI, and body fat are high....IDK how good of a health measure that number would be. Maybe look at some behaviors you had pre-GLP? A year in, what have you done that makes you FEEL better day to day? What things did you started doing that improved your over all health? Are you more active, more mobile, more social? Do you workout? Setting lifting/workout goals is a good one!

Good luck and dont get discouraged <3 Its a marathon, not a sprint!
 
It's kinda funny how the Kardashian ass is the first thing that came to my mind when I read the original post. At this piont it was obviously not the intent of the post.

So my original reply, while accurate, not appropriate for this thread.
 
AllCourtTENNIS said:


I recently passed the 1yr mark on peptide use without making it to goal. I've been deliberately finding both objective and subjective aspects of my current form to celebrate, appreciate, or even just notice as a means of staving off the 'grief' of not making goal.

Waist to hip ratio popped into my head as a health metric I've heard of but never tracked. I used this Waist to Hip Calculator with my current measurements and did not find reason to celebrate. I'm still in the red zone.

So is anyone using waist to hip ratio to help pick a goal weight? I know some of you are quite scholarly. Anyone have papers or studies that support or undermine this number as a useful health indicator?

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I'd just like to congratulate you on your 32 PERCENT bodyweight loss. Let's not overlook what an amazing accomplishment that is!
 
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