How are you all labeling your Peptides for storage in your Hydrapeaks?

[PAPoots]

BNLFL said:

Such1943 said:

On the label I just write the basics. The peptide, the BAC volume I add, and the mg-to-units conversion are already known to me. The only math left is figuring out how many units and mg I'm taking at the moment.

Reta 60

3ml BAC

1mg = 5 Units

That works out to 60 doses. What's your pinning schedule? If you're dosing once a week, that's 4mg per month, which stretches to 15 months.

PAPoots said:

Such1943 said:

On the label I just write the basics. The peptide, the BAC volume I add, and the mg-to-units conversion are already known to me. The only math left is figuring out how many units and mg I'm taking at the moment.

Reta 60

3ml BAC

1mg = 5 Units

I'm in the same boat. The one thing I'd love is for my wife to keep track of her dose in mgs rather than units, so that nothing gets thrown off if a different recon happens because the vial contents changed. She used to be on a smaller dose than me, and when new kits came in she went from RT30 at 6mg up to 8mg, while I was already on RT40 at 8 mg. That meant each of us got 5 doses out of a vial before she stepped up to 8. All because of the recon.... Now and then she'd need to draw her 6mg/60 units, then pull the extra 2 mg from my vial, which was reconned at 4mg per 10 units.

Once the kits I have run out, I'm eager to move to rt60 and stay on that for the long haul. I'll plug it into pepcalc to see whether I can recon it so her numbers stay the same. Still, the takeaway for everyone is to know your mgs and not depend on units.

No need to double-check my math, I'm recalling this off the top of my head. The reasoning ought to hold up.

I track mine in a spreadsheet, same as I do.

A spreadsheet is part of my routine. Still, come Sunday evening, if she tells me she's 20 units shy and I say to pull what's left from my supply, that means either doing the math right there or quickly putting together a fresh vial for her.

 

[BigRed1]

Can someone verify whether this size fits the vial tops?

2 Rolls/Set / 28*15mm-380pcs RND 6Colors

 

[Flash-BCR]

BigRed1 said:

Can someone verify whether this size fits the vial tops?

2 Rolls/Set / 28*15mm-380pcs RND 6Colors

From what I understand, the largest cap size for a 3ml vial is 1/2" (13mm)...

 

[BigRed1]

Flash-BCR said:

BigRed1 said:

Can someone verify whether this size fits the vial tops?

2 Rolls/Set / 28*15mm-380pcs RND 6Colors

From what I understand, the largest cap size for a 3ml vial is 1/2" (13mm)...

Yeah, that sounds correct — 13mm is how the vials are listed. I noticed niimbot also carries this variant: 24*13mm-420pcs RND 3Colors

 

[oldrunnerguy]

woundcarping said:

PAPoots said:

woundcarping said:

There's also a side label showing what's inside, the manufacturing date, and the batch code.

View attachment 10989

One more container and the set would be complete. I'm jealous. My approach: every vial gets a label, goes back into its original container, and those containers sit inside a tupperware in the freezer. Definitely not as impressive as what you've got going on.

I own 3 hydropeaks, each capable of holding 48 vials, but I soon said screw it. Given how little I have, the work and cost involved aren't worth the small benefit.

Leaving them inside the plastic containers they arrived in saves a ton of hassle. The ones I'm currently using will stay in the hydros, while everything else goes into its labeled holders, then into sealed Mylar bags with desiccant, then a cooler, then the freezer.

View attachment 10990

I'm a fan of the Hydrapeaks because they're insulated, so my peps aren't exposed to the temperature fluctuations in my no-frost freezer. A few of mine are also wrapped in multiple layers of bubble wrap, which insulates them just as well. After that, I toss a few silica packets into the Hydrapeak and that's it. The bubble-wrapped peps get put in a freezer bag along with several silica packs. My 4-5 year supply is safe.

 

[woundcarping]

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

PAPoots said:

woundcarping said:

There's also a side label showing what's inside, the manufacturing date, and the batch code.

View attachment 10989

One more container and the set would be complete. I'm jealous. My approach: every vial gets a label, goes back into its original container, and those containers sit inside a tupperware in the freezer. Definitely not as impressive as what you've got going on.

I own 3 hydropeaks, each capable of holding 48 vials, but I soon said screw it. Given how little I have, the work and cost involved aren't worth the small benefit.

Leaving them inside the plastic containers they arrived in saves a ton of hassle. The ones I'm currently using will stay in the hydros, while everything else goes into its labeled holders, then into sealed Mylar bags with desiccant, then a cooler, then the freezer.

View attachment 10990

I'm a fan of the Hydrapeaks because they're insulated, so my peps aren't exposed to the temperature fluctuations in my no-frost freezer. A few of mine are also wrapped in multiple layers of bubble wrap, which insulates them just as well. After that, I toss a few silica packets into the Hydrapeak and that's it. The bubble-wrapped peps get put in a freezer bag along with several silica packs. My 4-5 year supply is safe.

Hydropeaks work well, but scaling them up is a problem.

When it comes to thermal performance at scale, they can't match a cooler that has thermal mass placed inside a deep freeze that also contains thermal mass.

To do that, I'd have to spend roughly another $1k on hydropeaks and inserts, then put labels on both the top and side of an absurd number of vials… too much work for too little gain when it comes to long-term storage.

 

[finesse]

jpru2001 said:

When my kits arrive, each vial gets a label from the Niimbot D110, which costs $15 on amazon.

Appreciate it. Placed my order just now.

 

[oldrunnerguy]

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

PAPoots said:

woundcarping said:

There's also a side label showing what's inside, the manufacturing date, and the batch code.

View attachment 10989

One more container and the set would be complete. I'm jealous. My approach: every vial gets a label, goes back into its original container, and those containers sit inside a tupperware in the freezer. Definitely not as impressive as what you've got going on.

I own 3 hydropeaks, each capable of holding 48 vials, but I soon said screw it. Given how little I have, the work and cost involved aren't worth the small benefit.

Leaving them inside the plastic containers they arrived in saves a ton of hassle. The ones I'm currently using will stay in the hydros, while everything else goes into its labeled holders, then into sealed Mylar bags with desiccant, then a cooler, then the freezer.

View attachment 10990

I'm a fan of the Hydrapeaks because they're insulated, so my peps aren't exposed to the temperature fluctuations in my no-frost freezer. A few of mine are also wrapped in multiple layers of bubble wrap, which insulates them just as well. After that, I toss a few silica packets into the Hydrapeak and that's it. The bubble-wrapped peps get put in a freezer bag along with several silica packs. My 4-5 year supply is safe.

Hydropeaks work well, but scaling them up is a problem.

When it comes to thermal performance at scale, they can't match a cooler that has thermal mass placed inside a deep freeze that also contains thermal mass.

To do that, I'd have to spend roughly another $1k on hydropeaks and inserts, then put labels on both the top and side of an absurd number of vials… too much work for too little gain when it comes to long-term storage.

Let me see if I've got this right. You put your peps in a fairly small cooler, and that cooler goes into the freezer? If that's the setup you're describing, I'm actually a fan of it.

 

[woundcarping]

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

PAPoots said:

woundcarping said:

There's also a side label showing what's inside, the manufacturing date, and the batch code.

View attachment 10989

One more container and the set would be complete. I'm jealous. My approach: every vial gets a label, goes back into its original container, and those containers sit inside a tupperware in the freezer. Definitely not as impressive as what you've got going on.

I own 3 hydropeaks, each capable of holding 48 vials, but I soon said screw it. Given how little I have, the work and cost involved aren't worth the small benefit.

Leaving them inside the plastic containers they arrived in saves a ton of hassle. The ones I'm currently using will stay in the hydros, while everything else goes into its labeled holders, then into sealed Mylar bags with desiccant, then a cooler, then the freezer.

View attachment 10990

I'm a fan of the Hydrapeaks because they're insulated, so my peps aren't exposed to the temperature fluctuations in my no-frost freezer. A few of mine are also wrapped in multiple layers of bubble wrap, which insulates them just as well. After that, I toss a few silica packets into the Hydrapeak and that's it. The bubble-wrapped peps get put in a freezer bag along with several silica packs. My 4-5 year supply is safe.

Hydropeaks work well, but scaling them up is a problem.

When it comes to thermal performance at scale, they can't match a cooler that has thermal mass placed inside a deep freeze that also contains thermal mass.

To do that, I'd have to spend roughly another $1k on hydropeaks and inserts, then put labels on both the top and side of an absurd number of vials… too much work for too little gain when it comes to long-term storage.

Let me see if I've got this right. You put your peps in a fairly small cooler, and that cooler goes into the freezer? If that's the setup you're describing, I'm actually a fan of it.

That's essentially right—a cooler goes into the freezer. How large the cooler is depends on how much you're keeping, but yes, that's the concept. Extra credit if it's a sealed model built to hold ice for days, such as a Yeti.

 

[Flash-BCR]

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

PAPoots said:

woundcarping said:

There's also a side label showing what's inside, the manufacturing date, and the batch code.

View attachment 10989

One more container and the set would be complete. I'm jealous. My approach: every vial gets a label, goes back into its original container, and those containers sit inside a tupperware in the freezer. Definitely not as impressive as what you've got going on.

I own 3 hydropeaks, each capable of holding 48 vials, but I soon said screw it. Given how little I have, the work and cost involved aren't worth the small benefit.

Leaving them inside the plastic containers they arrived in saves a ton of hassle. The ones I'm currently using will stay in the hydros, while everything else goes into its labeled holders, then into sealed Mylar bags with desiccant, then a cooler, then the freezer.

View attachment 10990

I'm a fan of the Hydrapeaks because they're insulated, so my peps aren't exposed to the temperature fluctuations in my no-frost freezer. A few of mine are also wrapped in multiple layers of bubble wrap, which insulates them just as well. After that, I toss a few silica packets into the Hydrapeak and that's it. The bubble-wrapped peps get put in a freezer bag along with several silica packs. My 4-5 year supply is safe.

Hydropeaks work well, but scaling them up is a problem.

When it comes to thermal performance at scale, they can't match a cooler that has thermal mass placed inside a deep freeze that also contains thermal mass.

To do that, I'd have to spend roughly another $1k on hydropeaks and inserts, then put labels on both the top and side of an absurd number of vials… too much work for too little gain when it comes to long-term storage.

Let me see if I've got this right. You put your peps in a fairly small cooler, and that cooler goes into the freezer? If that's the setup you're describing, I'm actually a fan of it.

That's essentially right—a cooler goes into the freezer. How large the cooler is depends on how much you're keeping, but yes, that's the concept. Extra credit if it's a sealed model built to hold ice for days, such as a Yeti.

What sort of volume are we talking about here?...

I've been gradually building out my long-term storage setup, and in another week or two I'll be ready to flip the switch (I've still got 5 straggler pep shipments on the way). I picked up a 2 cu ft 'chest freezer' that fits 3+ Pelican style sealed water proof cases comfortably, each holding 20 kits. Since the freezer isn't 'frost free', the temperature stays constant. My preference is the chest style freezer (top access door) because when you need to grab something periodically, the cold air stays put instead of rolling out the way it does when a front loading freezer door opens. The freezer is rated to go down -22c, which sits just inside what research labs recommend for long term pep storage.

The bulk storage GLP case goes on the bottom. Tirz and Reta only in that one. I probably won't need to touch it for a few years...Above that, a long term storage case with a mix of GLP and non-GLP peps...Then a 3rd case on top of those holding 'working kits' that I'll pull from once or twice a year...Everything else lives in 'vial' cases, either in the bottom drawer of the refrigerator or in a desk drawer for everyday access...

I'm nearly at my goal of never having to reorder peps again, unless something new and shiny shows up down the road...

 

[woundcarping]

Flash-BCR said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

PAPoots said:

woundcarping said:

There's also a side label showing what's inside, the manufacturing date, and the batch code.

View attachment 10989

One more container and the set would be complete. I'm jealous. My approach: every vial gets a label, goes back into its original container, and those containers sit inside a tupperware in the freezer. Definitely not as impressive as what you've got going on.

I own 3 hydropeaks, each capable of holding 48 vials, but I soon said screw it. Given how little I have, the work and cost involved aren't worth the small benefit.

Leaving them inside the plastic containers they arrived in saves a ton of hassle. The ones I'm currently using will stay in the hydros, while everything else goes into its labeled holders, then into sealed Mylar bags with desiccant, then a cooler, then the freezer.

View attachment 10990

I'm a fan of the Hydrapeaks because they're insulated, so my peps aren't exposed to the temperature fluctuations in my no-frost freezer. A few of mine are also wrapped in multiple layers of bubble wrap, which insulates them just as well. After that, I toss a few silica packets into the Hydrapeak and that's it. The bubble-wrapped peps get put in a freezer bag along with several silica packs. My 4-5 year supply is safe.

Hydropeaks work well, but scaling them up is a problem.

When it comes to thermal performance at scale, they can't match a cooler that has thermal mass placed inside a deep freeze that also contains thermal mass.

To do that, I'd have to spend roughly another $1k on hydropeaks and inserts, then put labels on both the top and side of an absurd number of vials… too much work for too little gain when it comes to long-term storage.

Let me see if I've got this right. You put your peps in a fairly small cooler, and that cooler goes into the freezer? If that's the setup you're describing, I'm actually a fan of it.

That's essentially right—a cooler goes into the freezer. How large the cooler is depends on how much you're keeping, but yes, that's the concept. Extra credit if it's a sealed model built to hold ice for days, such as a Yeti.

What sort of volume are we talking about here?...

I've been gradually building out my long-term storage setup, and in another week or two I'll be ready to flip the switch (I've still got 5 straggler pep shipments on the way). I picked up a 2 cu ft 'chest freezer' that fits 3+ Pelican style sealed water proof cases comfortably, each holding 20 kits. Since the freezer isn't 'frost free', the temperature stays constant. My preference is the chest style freezer (top access door) because when you need to grab something periodically, the cold air stays put instead of rolling out the way it does when a front loading freezer door opens. The freezer is rated to go down -22c, which sits just inside what research labs recommend for long term pep storage.

The bulk storage GLP case goes on the bottom. Tirz and Reta only in that one. I probably won't need to touch it for a few years...Above that, a long term storage case with a mix of GLP and non-GLP peps...Then a 3rd case on top of those holding 'working kits' that I'll pull from once or twice a year...Everything else lives in 'vial' cases, either in the bottom drawer of the refrigerator or in a desk drawer for everyday access...

I'm nearly at my goal of never having to reorder peps again, unless something new and shiny shows up down the road...

Flash-BCR said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

PAPoots said:

woundcarping said:

There's also a side label showing what's inside, the manufacturing date, and the batch code.

View attachment 10989

One more container and the set would be complete. I'm jealous. My approach: every vial gets a label, goes back into its original container, and those containers sit inside a tupperware in the freezer. Definitely not as impressive as what you've got going on.

I own 3 hydropeaks, each capable of holding 48 vials, but I soon said screw it. Given how little I have, the work and cost involved aren't worth the small benefit.

Leaving them inside the plastic containers they arrived in saves a ton of hassle. The ones I'm currently using will stay in the hydros, while everything else goes into its labeled holders, then into sealed Mylar bags with desiccant, then a cooler, then the freezer.

View attachment 10990

I'm a fan of the Hydrapeaks because they're insulated, so my peps aren't exposed to the temperature fluctuations in my no-frost freezer. A few of mine are also wrapped in multiple layers of bubble wrap, which insulates them just as well. After that, I toss a few silica packets into the Hydrapeak and that's it. The bubble-wrapped peps get put in a freezer bag along with several silica packs. My 4-5 year supply is safe.

Hydropeaks work well, but scaling them up is a problem.

When it comes to thermal performance at scale, they can't match a cooler that has thermal mass placed inside a deep freeze that also contains thermal mass.

To do that, I'd have to spend roughly another $1k on hydropeaks and inserts, then put labels on both the top and side of an absurd number of vials… too much work for too little gain when it comes to long-term storage.

Let me see if I've got this right. You put your peps in a fairly small cooler, and that cooler goes into the freezer? If that's the setup you're describing, I'm actually a fan of it.

That's essentially right—a cooler goes into the freezer. How large the cooler is depends on how much you're keeping, but yes, that's the concept. Extra credit if it's a sealed model built to hold ice for days, such as a Yeti.

What sort of volume are we talking about here?...

I've been gradually building out my long-term storage setup, and in another week or two I'll be ready to flip the switch (I've still got 5 straggler pep shipments on the way). I picked up a 2 cu ft 'chest freezer' that fits 3+ Pelican style sealed water proof cases comfortably, each holding 20 kits. Since the freezer isn't 'frost free', the temperature stays constant. My preference is the chest style freezer (top access door) because when you need to grab something periodically, the cold air stays put instead of rolling out the way it does when a front loading freezer door opens. The freezer is rated to go down -22c, which sits just inside what research labs recommend for long term pep storage.

The bulk storage GLP case goes on the bottom. Tirz and Reta only in that one. I probably won't need to touch it for a few years...Above that, a long term storage case with a mix of GLP and non-GLP peps...Then a 3rd case on top of those holding 'working kits' that I'll pull from once or twice a year...Everything else lives in 'vial' cases, either in the bottom drawer of the refrigerator or in a desk drawer for everyday access...

I'm nearly at my goal of never having to reorder peps again, unless something new and shiny shows up down the road...

I figure I have roughly ~45 years remaining. I could help you reach yours without needing to purchase any more for myself.

 

[Flash-BCR]

woundcarping said:

Flash-BCR said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

PAPoots said:

woundcarping said:

There's also a side label showing what's inside, the manufacturing date, and the batch code.

View attachment 10989

One more container and the set would be complete. I'm jealous. My approach: every vial gets a label, goes back into its original container, and those containers sit inside a tupperware in the freezer. Definitely not as impressive as what you've got going on.

I own 3 hydropeaks, each capable of holding 48 vials, but I soon said screw it. Given how little I have, the work and cost involved aren't worth the small benefit.

Leaving them inside the plastic containers they arrived in saves a ton of hassle. The ones I'm currently using will stay in the hydros, while everything else goes into its labeled holders, then into sealed Mylar bags with desiccant, then a cooler, then the freezer.

View attachment 10990

I'm a fan of the Hydrapeaks because they're insulated, so my peps aren't exposed to the temperature fluctuations in my no-frost freezer. A few of mine are also wrapped in multiple layers of bubble wrap, which insulates them just as well. After that, I toss a few silica packets into the Hydrapeak and that's it. The bubble-wrapped peps get put in a freezer bag along with several silica packs. My 4-5 year supply is safe.

Hydropeaks work well, but scaling them up is a problem.

When it comes to thermal performance at scale, they can't match a cooler that has thermal mass placed inside a deep freeze that also contains thermal mass.

To do that, I'd have to spend roughly another $1k on hydropeaks and inserts, then put labels on both the top and side of an absurd number of vials… too much work for too little gain when it comes to long-term storage.

Let me see if I've got this right. You put your peps in a fairly small cooler, and that cooler goes into the freezer? If that's the setup you're describing, I'm actually a fan of it.

That's essentially right—a cooler goes into the freezer. How large the cooler is depends on how much you're keeping, but yes, that's the concept. Extra credit if it's a sealed model built to hold ice for days, such as a Yeti.

What sort of volume are we talking about here?...

I've been gradually building out my long-term storage setup, and in another week or two I'll be ready to flip the switch (I've still got 5 straggler pep shipments on the way). I picked up a 2 cu ft 'chest freezer' that fits 3+ Pelican style sealed water proof cases comfortably, each holding 20 kits. Since the freezer isn't 'frost free', the temperature stays constant. My preference is the chest style freezer (top access door) because when you need to grab something periodically, the cold air stays put instead of rolling out the way it does when a front loading freezer door opens. The freezer is rated to go down -22c, which sits just inside what research labs recommend for long term pep storage.

The bulk storage GLP case goes on the bottom. Tirz and Reta only in that one. I probably won't need to touch it for a few years...Above that, a long term storage case with a mix of GLP and non-GLP peps...Then a 3rd case on top of those holding 'working kits' that I'll pull from once or twice a year...Everything else lives in 'vial' cases, either in the bottom drawer of the refrigerator or in a desk drawer for everyday access...

I'm nearly at my goal of never having to reorder peps again, unless something new and shiny shows up down the road...

Flash-BCR said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

PAPoots said:

woundcarping said:

There's also a side label showing what's inside, the manufacturing date, and the batch code.

View attachment 10989

One more container and the set would be complete. I'm jealous. My approach: every vial gets a label, goes back into its original container, and those containers sit inside a tupperware in the freezer. Definitely not as impressive as what you've got going on.

I own 3 hydropeaks, each capable of holding 48 vials, but I soon said screw it. Given how little I have, the work and cost involved aren't worth the small benefit.

Leaving them inside the plastic containers they arrived in saves a ton of hassle. The ones I'm currently using will stay in the hydros, while everything else goes into its labeled holders, then into sealed Mylar bags with desiccant, then a cooler, then the freezer.

View attachment 10990

I'm a fan of the Hydrapeaks because they're insulated, so my peps aren't exposed to the temperature fluctuations in my no-frost freezer. A few of mine are also wrapped in multiple layers of bubble wrap, which insulates them just as well. After that, I toss a few silica packets into the Hydrapeak and that's it. The bubble-wrapped peps get put in a freezer bag along with several silica packs. My 4-5 year supply is safe.

Hydropeaks work well, but scaling them up is a problem.

When it comes to thermal performance at scale, they can't match a cooler that has thermal mass placed inside a deep freeze that also contains thermal mass.

To do that, I'd have to spend roughly another $1k on hydropeaks and inserts, then put labels on both the top and side of an absurd number of vials… too much work for too little gain when it comes to long-term storage.

Let me see if I've got this right. You put your peps in a fairly small cooler, and that cooler goes into the freezer? If that's the setup you're describing, I'm actually a fan of it.

That's essentially right—a cooler goes into the freezer. How large the cooler is depends on how much you're keeping, but yes, that's the concept. Extra credit if it's a sealed model built to hold ice for days, such as a Yeti.

What sort of volume are we talking about here?...

I've been gradually building out my long-term storage setup, and in another week or two I'll be ready to flip the switch (I've still got 5 straggler pep shipments on the way). I picked up a 2 cu ft 'chest freezer' that fits 3+ Pelican style sealed water proof cases comfortably, each holding 20 kits. Since the freezer isn't 'frost free', the temperature stays constant. My preference is the chest style freezer (top access door) because when you need to grab something periodically, the cold air stays put instead of rolling out the way it does when a front loading freezer door opens. The freezer is rated to go down -22c, which sits just inside what research labs recommend for long term pep storage.

The bulk storage GLP case goes on the bottom. Tirz and Reta only in that one. I probably won't need to touch it for a few years...Above that, a long term storage case with a mix of GLP and non-GLP peps...Then a 3rd case on top of those holding 'working kits' that I'll pull from once or twice a year...Everything else lives in 'vial' cases, either in the bottom drawer of the refrigerator or in a desk drawer for everyday access...

I'm nearly at my goal of never having to reorder peps again, unless something new and shiny shows up down the road...

I figure I have roughly ~45 years remaining. I could help you reach yours without needing to purchase any more for myself.

Nice!... I'm fairly confident no peptides or treatments exist that could grant me an additional 45 years, so your stash wouldn't take much of a hit from me...By my calculations, mine should last 15-20 years at high or max doses, though at maintenance doses it would realistically stretch far longer...Should I somehow manage to keep breathing beyond that, I'll be sure to track you down...

 

[Socram1578]

I put labels on all of it, just to be cautious. That goes for my vials, cartridges, and pens. A Brother P-touch is what I use to make the labels. Product name, vendor, mg, and the date it arrived always go on there. When something has been reconstituted, I also note the amount of bac water I used for it. My memory is terrible. Safer to do it than to regret it.

 

[Spork]

I've put labels on both the tops and the sides. Since my tirz and reta came with caps of the same color, I wasn't about to risk any mix-ups.

When it comes to the round cap labels, I likely go into more detail than most people do.

 

[woundcarping]

Flash-BCR said:

woundcarping said:

Flash-BCR said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

PAPoots said:

woundcarping said:

There's also a side label showing what's inside, the manufacturing date, and the batch code.

View attachment 10989

One more container and the set would be complete. I'm jealous. My approach: every vial gets a label, goes back into its original container, and those containers sit inside a tupperware in the freezer. Definitely not as impressive as what you've got going on.

I own 3 hydropeaks, each capable of holding 48 vials, but I soon said screw it. Given how little I have, the work and cost involved aren't worth the small benefit.

Leaving them inside the plastic containers they arrived in saves a ton of hassle. The ones I'm currently using will stay in the hydros, while everything else goes into its labeled holders, then into sealed Mylar bags with desiccant, then a cooler, then the freezer.

View attachment 10990

I'm a fan of the Hydrapeaks because they're insulated, so my peps aren't exposed to the temperature fluctuations in my no-frost freezer. A few of mine are also wrapped in multiple layers of bubble wrap, which insulates them just as well. After that, I toss a few silica packets into the Hydrapeak and that's it. The bubble-wrapped peps get put in a freezer bag along with several silica packs. My 4-5 year supply is safe.

Hydropeaks work well, but scaling them up is a problem.

When it comes to thermal performance at scale, they can't match a cooler that has thermal mass placed inside a deep freeze that also contains thermal mass.

To do that, I'd have to spend roughly another $1k on hydropeaks and inserts, then put labels on both the top and side of an absurd number of vials… too much work for too little gain when it comes to long-term storage.

Let me see if I've got this right. You put your peps in a fairly small cooler, and that cooler goes into the freezer? If that's the setup you're describing, I'm actually a fan of it.

That's essentially right—a cooler goes into the freezer. How large the cooler is depends on how much you're keeping, but yes, that's the concept. Extra credit if it's a sealed model built to hold ice for days, such as a Yeti.

What sort of volume are we talking about here?...

I've been gradually building out my long-term storage setup, and in another week or two I'll be ready to flip the switch (I've still got 5 straggler pep shipments on the way). I picked up a 2 cu ft 'chest freezer' that fits 3+ Pelican style sealed water proof cases comfortably, each holding 20 kits. Since the freezer isn't 'frost free', the temperature stays constant. My preference is the chest style freezer (top access door) because when you need to grab something periodically, the cold air stays put instead of rolling out the way it does when a front loading freezer door opens. The freezer is rated to go down -22c, which sits just inside what research labs recommend for long term pep storage.

The bulk storage GLP case goes on the bottom. Tirz and Reta only in that one. I probably won't need to touch it for a few years...Above that, a long term storage case with a mix of GLP and non-GLP peps...Then a 3rd case on top of those holding 'working kits' that I'll pull from once or twice a year...Everything else lives in 'vial' cases, either in the bottom drawer of the refrigerator or in a desk drawer for everyday access...

I'm nearly at my goal of never having to reorder peps again, unless something new and shiny shows up down the road...

Flash-BCR said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

PAPoots said:

woundcarping said:

There's also a side label showing what's inside, the manufacturing date, and the batch code.

View attachment 10989

One more container and the set would be complete. I'm jealous. My approach: every vial gets a label, goes back into its original container, and those containers sit inside a tupperware in the freezer. Definitely not as impressive as what you've got going on.

I own 3 hydropeaks, each capable of holding 48 vials, but I soon said screw it. Given how little I have, the work and cost involved aren't worth the small benefit.

Leaving them inside the plastic containers they arrived in saves a ton of hassle. The ones I'm currently using will stay in the hydros, while everything else goes into its labeled holders, then into sealed Mylar bags with desiccant, then a cooler, then the freezer.

View attachment 10990

I'm a fan of the Hydrapeaks because they're insulated, so my peps aren't exposed to the temperature fluctuations in my no-frost freezer. A few of mine are also wrapped in multiple layers of bubble wrap, which insulates them just as well. After that, I toss a few silica packets into the Hydrapeak and that's it. The bubble-wrapped peps get put in a freezer bag along with several silica packs. My 4-5 year supply is safe.

Hydropeaks work well, but scaling them up is a problem.

When it comes to thermal performance at scale, they can't match a cooler that has thermal mass placed inside a deep freeze that also contains thermal mass.

To do that, I'd have to spend roughly another $1k on hydropeaks and inserts, then put labels on both the top and side of an absurd number of vials… too much work for too little gain when it comes to long-term storage.

Let me see if I've got this right. You put your peps in a fairly small cooler, and that cooler goes into the freezer? If that's the setup you're describing, I'm actually a fan of it.

That's essentially right—a cooler goes into the freezer. How large the cooler is depends on how much you're keeping, but yes, that's the concept. Extra credit if it's a sealed model built to hold ice for days, such as a Yeti.

What sort of volume are we talking about here?...

I've been gradually building out my long-term storage setup, and in another week or two I'll be ready to flip the switch (I've still got 5 straggler pep shipments on the way). I picked up a 2 cu ft 'chest freezer' that fits 3+ Pelican style sealed water proof cases comfortably, each holding 20 kits. Since the freezer isn't 'frost free', the temperature stays constant. My preference is the chest style freezer (top access door) because when you need to grab something periodically, the cold air stays put instead of rolling out the way it does when a front loading freezer door opens. The freezer is rated to go down -22c, which sits just inside what research labs recommend for long term pep storage.

The bulk storage GLP case goes on the bottom. Tirz and Reta only in that one. I probably won't need to touch it for a few years...Above that, a long term storage case with a mix of GLP and non-GLP peps...Then a 3rd case on top of those holding 'working kits' that I'll pull from once or twice a year...Everything else lives in 'vial' cases, either in the bottom drawer of the refrigerator or in a desk drawer for everyday access...

I'm nearly at my goal of never having to reorder peps again, unless something new and shiny shows up down the road...

I figure I have roughly ~45 years remaining. I could help you reach yours without needing to purchase any more for myself.

Nice!... I'm fairly confident no peptides or treatments exist that could grant me an additional 45 years, so your stash wouldn't take much of a hit from me...By my calculations, mine should last 15-20 years at high or max doses, though at maintenance doses it would realistically stretch far longer...Should I somehow manage to keep breathing beyond that, I'll be sure to track you down...

What I was getting at is that I expect to be around for another 45 years, so I could help you reach your target and still keep plenty for my own run.

Tirz or Reta — your call. Sema, Cagri, and Elora I have in smaller amounts, but those play a supporting role rather than leading the cast.

I'm still 20-30lb away from maintenance, so it'll be curious to find out where my dose lands once I get there.

 

[Flash-BCR]

woundcarping said:

Flash-BCR said:

woundcarping said:

Flash-BCR said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

PAPoots said:

woundcarping said:

There's also a side label showing what's inside, the manufacturing date, and the batch code.

View attachment 10989

One more container and the set would be complete. I'm jealous. My approach: every vial gets a label, goes back into its original container, and those containers sit inside a tupperware in the freezer. Definitely not as impressive as what you've got going on.

I own 3 hydropeaks, each capable of holding 48 vials, but I soon said screw it. Given how little I have, the work and cost involved aren't worth the small benefit.

Leaving them inside the plastic containers they arrived in saves a ton of hassle. The ones I'm currently using will stay in the hydros, while everything else goes into its labeled holders, then into sealed Mylar bags with desiccant, then a cooler, then the freezer.

View attachment 10990

I'm a fan of the Hydrapeaks because they're insulated, so my peps aren't exposed to the temperature fluctuations in my no-frost freezer. A few of mine are also wrapped in multiple layers of bubble wrap, which insulates them just as well. After that, I toss a few silica packets into the Hydrapeak and that's it. The bubble-wrapped peps get put in a freezer bag along with several silica packs. My 4-5 year supply is safe.

Hydropeaks work well, but scaling them up is a problem.

When it comes to thermal performance at scale, they can't match a cooler that has thermal mass placed inside a deep freeze that also contains thermal mass.

To do that, I'd have to spend roughly another $1k on hydropeaks and inserts, then put labels on both the top and side of an absurd number of vials… too much work for too little gain when it comes to long-term storage.

Let me see if I've got this right. You put your peps in a fairly small cooler, and that cooler goes into the freezer? If that's the setup you're describing, I'm actually a fan of it.

That's essentially right—a cooler goes into the freezer. How large the cooler is depends on how much you're keeping, but yes, that's the concept. Extra credit if it's a sealed model built to hold ice for days, such as a Yeti.

What sort of volume are we talking about here?...

I've been gradually building out my long-term storage setup, and in another week or two I'll be ready to flip the switch (I've still got 5 straggler pep shipments on the way). I picked up a 2 cu ft 'chest freezer' that fits 3+ Pelican style sealed water proof cases comfortably, each holding 20 kits. Since the freezer isn't 'frost free', the temperature stays constant. My preference is the chest style freezer (top access door) because when you need to grab something periodically, the cold air stays put instead of rolling out the way it does when a front loading freezer door opens. The freezer is rated to go down -22c, which sits just inside what research labs recommend for long term pep storage.

The bulk storage GLP case goes on the bottom. Tirz and Reta only in that one. I probably won't need to touch it for a few years...Above that, a long term storage case with a mix of GLP and non-GLP peps...Then a 3rd case on top of those holding 'working kits' that I'll pull from once or twice a year...Everything else lives in 'vial' cases, either in the bottom drawer of the refrigerator or in a desk drawer for everyday access...

I'm nearly at my goal of never having to reorder peps again, unless something new and shiny shows up down the road...

Flash-BCR said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

PAPoots said:

woundcarping said:

There's also a side label showing what's inside, the manufacturing date, and the batch code.

View attachment 10989

One more container and the set would be complete. I'm jealous. My approach: every vial gets a label, goes back into its original container, and those containers sit inside a tupperware in the freezer. Definitely not as impressive as what you've got going on.

I own 3 hydropeaks, each capable of holding 48 vials, but I soon said screw it. Given how little I have, the work and cost involved aren't worth the small benefit.

Leaving them inside the plastic containers they arrived in saves a ton of hassle. The ones I'm currently using will stay in the hydros, while everything else goes into its labeled holders, then into sealed Mylar bags with desiccant, then a cooler, then the freezer.

View attachment 10990

I'm a fan of the Hydrapeaks because they're insulated, so my peps aren't exposed to the temperature fluctuations in my no-frost freezer. A few of mine are also wrapped in multiple layers of bubble wrap, which insulates them just as well. After that, I toss a few silica packets into the Hydrapeak and that's it. The bubble-wrapped peps get put in a freezer bag along with several silica packs. My 4-5 year supply is safe.

Hydropeaks work well, but scaling them up is a problem.

When it comes to thermal performance at scale, they can't match a cooler that has thermal mass placed inside a deep freeze that also contains thermal mass.

To do that, I'd have to spend roughly another $1k on hydropeaks and inserts, then put labels on both the top and side of an absurd number of vials… too much work for too little gain when it comes to long-term storage.

Let me see if I've got this right. You put your peps in a fairly small cooler, and that cooler goes into the freezer? If that's the setup you're describing, I'm actually a fan of it.

That's essentially right—a cooler goes into the freezer. How large the cooler is depends on how much you're keeping, but yes, that's the concept. Extra credit if it's a sealed model built to hold ice for days, such as a Yeti.

What sort of volume are we talking about here?...

I've been gradually building out my long-term storage setup, and in another week or two I'll be ready to flip the switch (I've still got 5 straggler pep shipments on the way). I picked up a 2 cu ft 'chest freezer' that fits 3+ Pelican style sealed water proof cases comfortably, each holding 20 kits. Since the freezer isn't 'frost free', the temperature stays constant. My preference is the chest style freezer (top access door) because when you need to grab something periodically, the cold air stays put instead of rolling out the way it does when a front loading freezer door opens. The freezer is rated to go down -22c, which sits just inside what research labs recommend for long term pep storage.

The bulk storage GLP case goes on the bottom. Tirz and Reta only in that one. I probably won't need to touch it for a few years...Above that, a long term storage case with a mix of GLP and non-GLP peps...Then a 3rd case on top of those holding 'working kits' that I'll pull from once or twice a year...Everything else lives in 'vial' cases, either in the bottom drawer of the refrigerator or in a desk drawer for everyday access...

I'm nearly at my goal of never having to reorder peps again, unless something new and shiny shows up down the road...

I figure I have roughly ~45 years remaining. I could help you reach yours without needing to purchase any more for myself.

Nice!... I'm fairly confident no peptides or treatments exist that could grant me an additional 45 years, so your stash wouldn't take much of a hit from me...By my calculations, mine should last 15-20 years at high or max doses, though at maintenance doses it would realistically stretch far longer...Should I somehow manage to keep breathing beyond that, I'll be sure to track you down...

What I was getting at is that I expect to be around for another 45 years, so I could help you reach your target and still keep plenty for my own run.

Tirz or Reta — your call. Sema, Cagri, and Elora I have in smaller amounts, but those play a supporting role rather than leading the cast.

I'm still 20-30lb away from maintenance, so it'll be curious to find out where my dose lands once I get there.

If I had 45 years ahead of me, that would be great, but I tend to be realistic...this old body has taken a beating...my hope is that a late-life health regimen will deliver better quality years, even if nothing more.

Sure, I've got a few kits of sema and cagril apiece, though those will be kept in the middle storage case...sema makes me nervous, and so does the cagril, but in my view cagril works better as a tool to 'shut down' food noise than sema does...still, having options available without needing to return to the grey market is a plus..

I'm 10-15 pounds away from maintenance. Tirz is all I've used so far, but once I settle into a steady weight, I intend to try split dosing with reta to find out what the fat burning component does (and I also have a huge amount of it)...Beyond that, I'll begin focusing on strength and body fitness...Compared with giving in to a sad sedentary EOL, that seems like a far better direction to take...

 

[BNLFL]

Flash-BCR said:

woundcarping said:

Flash-BCR said:

woundcarping said:

Flash-BCR said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

PAPoots said:

woundcarping said:

There's also a side label showing what's inside, the manufacturing date, and the batch code.

View attachment 10989

One more container and the set would be complete. I'm jealous. My approach: every vial gets a label, goes back into its original container, and those containers sit inside a tupperware in the freezer. Definitely not as impressive as what you've got going on.

I own 3 hydropeaks, each capable of holding 48 vials, but I soon said screw it. Given how little I have, the work and cost involved aren't worth the small benefit.

Leaving them inside the plastic containers they arrived in saves a ton of hassle. The ones I'm currently using will stay in the hydros, while everything else goes into its labeled holders, then into sealed Mylar bags with desiccant, then a cooler, then the freezer.

View attachment 10990

I'm a fan of the Hydrapeaks because they're insulated, so my peps aren't exposed to the temperature fluctuations in my no-frost freezer. A few of mine are also wrapped in multiple layers of bubble wrap, which insulates them just as well. After that, I toss a few silica packets into the Hydrapeak and that's it. The bubble-wrapped peps get put in a freezer bag along with several silica packs. My 4-5 year supply is safe.

Hydropeaks work well, but scaling them up is a problem.

When it comes to thermal performance at scale, they can't match a cooler that has thermal mass placed inside a deep freeze that also contains thermal mass.

To do that, I'd have to spend roughly another $1k on hydropeaks and inserts, then put labels on both the top and side of an absurd number of vials… too much work for too little gain when it comes to long-term storage.

Let me see if I've got this right. You put your peps in a fairly small cooler, and that cooler goes into the freezer? If that's the setup you're describing, I'm actually a fan of it.

That's essentially right—a cooler goes into the freezer. How large the cooler is depends on how much you're keeping, but yes, that's the concept. Extra credit if it's a sealed model built to hold ice for days, such as a Yeti.

What sort of volume are we talking about here?...

I've been gradually building out my long-term storage setup, and in another week or two I'll be ready to flip the switch (I've still got 5 straggler pep shipments on the way). I picked up a 2 cu ft 'chest freezer' that fits 3+ Pelican style sealed water proof cases comfortably, each holding 20 kits. Since the freezer isn't 'frost free', the temperature stays constant. My preference is the chest style freezer (top access door) because when you need to grab something periodically, the cold air stays put instead of rolling out the way it does when a front loading freezer door opens. The freezer is rated to go down -22c, which sits just inside what research labs recommend for long term pep storage.

The bulk storage GLP case goes on the bottom. Tirz and Reta only in that one. I probably won't need to touch it for a few years...Above that, a long term storage case with a mix of GLP and non-GLP peps...Then a 3rd case on top of those holding 'working kits' that I'll pull from once or twice a year...Everything else lives in 'vial' cases, either in the bottom drawer of the refrigerator or in a desk drawer for everyday access...

I'm nearly at my goal of never having to reorder peps again, unless something new and shiny shows up down the road...

Flash-BCR said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

PAPoots said:

woundcarping said:

There's also a side label showing what's inside, the manufacturing date, and the batch code.

View attachment 10989

One more container and the set would be complete. I'm jealous. My approach: every vial gets a label, goes back into its original container, and those containers sit inside a tupperware in the freezer. Definitely not as impressive as what you've got going on.

I own 3 hydropeaks, each capable of holding 48 vials, but I soon said screw it. Given how little I have, the work and cost involved aren't worth the small benefit.

Leaving them inside the plastic containers they arrived in saves a ton of hassle. The ones I'm currently using will stay in the hydros, while everything else goes into its labeled holders, then into sealed Mylar bags with desiccant, then a cooler, then the freezer.

View attachment 10990

I'm a fan of the Hydrapeaks because they're insulated, so my peps aren't exposed to the temperature fluctuations in my no-frost freezer. A few of mine are also wrapped in multiple layers of bubble wrap, which insulates them just as well. After that, I toss a few silica packets into the Hydrapeak and that's it. The bubble-wrapped peps get put in a freezer bag along with several silica packs. My 4-5 year supply is safe.

Hydropeaks work well, but scaling them up is a problem.

When it comes to thermal performance at scale, they can't match a cooler that has thermal mass placed inside a deep freeze that also contains thermal mass.

To do that, I'd have to spend roughly another $1k on hydropeaks and inserts, then put labels on both the top and side of an absurd number of vials… too much work for too little gain when it comes to long-term storage.

Let me see if I've got this right. You put your peps in a fairly small cooler, and that cooler goes into the freezer? If that's the setup you're describing, I'm actually a fan of it.

That's essentially right—a cooler goes into the freezer. How large the cooler is depends on how much you're keeping, but yes, that's the concept. Extra credit if it's a sealed model built to hold ice for days, such as a Yeti.

What sort of volume are we talking about here?...

I've been gradually building out my long-term storage setup, and in another week or two I'll be ready to flip the switch (I've still got 5 straggler pep shipments on the way). I picked up a 2 cu ft 'chest freezer' that fits 3+ Pelican style sealed water proof cases comfortably, each holding 20 kits. Since the freezer isn't 'frost free', the temperature stays constant. My preference is the chest style freezer (top access door) because when you need to grab something periodically, the cold air stays put instead of rolling out the way it does when a front loading freezer door opens. The freezer is rated to go down -22c, which sits just inside what research labs recommend for long term pep storage.

The bulk storage GLP case goes on the bottom. Tirz and Reta only in that one. I probably won't need to touch it for a few years...Above that, a long term storage case with a mix of GLP and non-GLP peps...Then a 3rd case on top of those holding 'working kits' that I'll pull from once or twice a year...Everything else lives in 'vial' cases, either in the bottom drawer of the refrigerator or in a desk drawer for everyday access...

I'm nearly at my goal of never having to reorder peps again, unless something new and shiny shows up down the road...

I figure I have roughly ~45 years remaining. I could help you reach yours without needing to purchase any more for myself.

Nice!... I'm fairly confident no peptides or treatments exist that could grant me an additional 45 years, so your stash wouldn't take much of a hit from me...By my calculations, mine should last 15-20 years at high or max doses, though at maintenance doses it would realistically stretch far longer...Should I somehow manage to keep breathing beyond that, I'll be sure to track you down...

What I was getting at is that I expect to be around for another 45 years, so I could help you reach your target and still keep plenty for my own run.

Tirz or Reta — your call. Sema, Cagri, and Elora I have in smaller amounts, but those play a supporting role rather than leading the cast.

I'm still 20-30lb away from maintenance, so it'll be curious to find out where my dose lands once I get there.

If I had 45 years ahead of me, that would be great, but I tend to be realistic...this old body has taken a beating...my hope is that a late-life health regimen will deliver better quality years, even if nothing more.

Sure, I've got a few kits of sema and cagril apiece, though those will be kept in the middle storage case...sema makes me nervous, and so does the cagril, but in my view cagril works better as a tool to 'shut down' food noise than sema does...still, having options available without needing to return to the grey market is a plus..

I'm 10-15 pounds away from maintenance. Tirz is all I've used so far, but once I settle into a steady weight, I intend to try split dosing with reta to find out what the fat burning component does (and I also have a huge amount of it)...Beyond that, I'll begin focusing on strength and body fitness...Compared with giving in to a sad sedentary EOL, that seems like a far better direction to take...

My weight is 3 pounds over the target, and I've changed that target 2 times. When I began 6 months back, I never imagined reaching the 1st one. The mirror tells the truth. It still does, but the belly fat/love handles will be your final sentence. Tomorrow is weigh-in and injection day. I'll take my 4th dose of 9mg and make a decision according to what the scale shows.

 

[Huffingnpuffing]

I figure some fresh option will show up eventually

In my case, I'm fairly isolated, relatively speaking, and shipping gives me trouble - customs especially, so chances to build a stockpile are fewer. Still, that same factor is exactly why I'm attempting to accumulate a supply.

It's striking to see the volume of stock other people have put away.

Lately I've switched to cases I print myself - 50 vials. Previously I would simply label each kit the way it arrived and store it in the seldom-opened fridge freezer located in a back storage room

 

[HouseCat]

Flash-BCR said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

PAPoots said:

woundcarping said:

There's also a side label showing what's inside, the manufacturing date, and the batch code.

View attachment 10989

One more container and the set would be complete. I'm jealous. My approach: every vial gets a label, goes back into its original container, and those containers sit inside a tupperware in the freezer. Definitely not as impressive as what you've got going on.

I own 3 hydropeaks, each capable of holding 48 vials, but I soon said screw it. Given how little I have, the work and cost involved aren't worth the small benefit.

Leaving them inside the plastic containers they arrived in saves a ton of hassle. The ones I'm currently using will stay in the hydros, while everything else goes into its labeled holders, then into sealed Mylar bags with desiccant, then a cooler, then the freezer.

View attachment 10990

I'm a fan of the Hydrapeaks because they're insulated, so my peps aren't exposed to the temperature fluctuations in my no-frost freezer. A few of mine are also wrapped in multiple layers of bubble wrap, which insulates them just as well. After that, I toss a few silica packets into the Hydrapeak and that's it. The bubble-wrapped peps get put in a freezer bag along with several silica packs. My 4-5 year supply is safe.

Hydropeaks work well, but scaling them up is a problem.

When it comes to thermal performance at scale, they can't match a cooler that has thermal mass placed inside a deep freeze that also contains thermal mass.

To do that, I'd have to spend roughly another $1k on hydropeaks and inserts, then put labels on both the top and side of an absurd number of vials… too much work for too little gain when it comes to long-term storage.

Let me see if I've got this right. You put your peps in a fairly small cooler, and that cooler goes into the freezer? If that's the setup you're describing, I'm actually a fan of it.

That's essentially right—a cooler goes into the freezer. How large the cooler is depends on how much you're keeping, but yes, that's the concept. Extra credit if it's a sealed model built to hold ice for days, such as a Yeti.

What sort of volume are we talking about here?...

I've been gradually building out my long-term storage setup, and in another week or two I'll be ready to flip the switch (I've still got 5 straggler pep shipments on the way). I picked up a 2 cu ft 'chest freezer' that fits 3+ Pelican style sealed water proof cases comfortably, each holding 20 kits. Since the freezer isn't 'frost free', the temperature stays constant. My preference is the chest style freezer (top access door) because when you need to grab something periodically, the cold air stays put instead of rolling out the way it does when a front loading freezer door opens. The freezer is rated to go down -22c, which sits just inside what research labs recommend for long term pep storage.

The bulk storage GLP case goes on the bottom. Tirz and Reta only in that one. I probably won't need to touch it for a few years...Above that, a long term storage case with a mix of GLP and non-GLP peps...Then a 3rd case on top of those holding 'working kits' that I'll pull from once or twice a year...Everything else lives in 'vial' cases, either in the bottom drawer of the refrigerator or in a desk drawer for everyday access...

I'm nearly at my goal of never having to reorder peps again, unless something new and shiny shows up down the road...

Which kind of freezer is that, Flash? That's pretty neat! And stay on the lookout...it's coming out shortly:

 

[Flash-BCR]

HouseCat said:

Flash-BCR said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

oldrunnerguy said:

woundcarping said:

PAPoots said:

woundcarping said:

There's also a side label showing what's inside, the manufacturing date, and the batch code.

View attachment 10989

One more container and the set would be complete. I'm jealous. My approach: every vial gets a label, goes back into its original container, and those containers sit inside a tupperware in the freezer. Definitely not as impressive as what you've got going on.

I own 3 hydropeaks, each capable of holding 48 vials, but I soon said screw it. Given how little I have, the work and cost involved aren't worth the small benefit.

Leaving them inside the plastic containers they arrived in saves a ton of hassle. The ones I'm currently using will stay in the hydros, while everything else goes into its labeled holders, then into sealed Mylar bags with desiccant, then a cooler, then the freezer.

View attachment 10990

I'm a fan of the Hydrapeaks because they're insulated, so my peps aren't exposed to the temperature fluctuations in my no-frost freezer. A few of mine are also wrapped in multiple layers of bubble wrap, which insulates them just as well. After that, I toss a few silica packets into the Hydrapeak and that's it. The bubble-wrapped peps get put in a freezer bag along with several silica packs. My 4-5 year supply is safe.

Hydropeaks work well, but scaling them up is a problem.

When it comes to thermal performance at scale, they can't match a cooler that has thermal mass placed inside a deep freeze that also contains thermal mass.

To do that, I'd have to spend roughly another $1k on hydropeaks and inserts, then put labels on both the top and side of an absurd number of vials… too much work for too little gain when it comes to long-term storage.

Let me see if I've got this right. You put your peps in a fairly small cooler, and that cooler goes into the freezer? If that's the setup you're describing, I'm actually a fan of it.

That's essentially right—a cooler goes into the freezer. How large the cooler is depends on how much you're keeping, but yes, that's the concept. Extra credit if it's a sealed model built to hold ice for days, such as a Yeti.

What sort of volume are we talking about here?...

I've been gradually building out my long-term storage setup, and in another week or two I'll be ready to flip the switch (I've still got 5 straggler pep shipments on the way). I picked up a 2 cu ft 'chest freezer' that fits 3+ Pelican style sealed water proof cases comfortably, each holding 20 kits. Since the freezer isn't 'frost free', the temperature stays constant. My preference is the chest style freezer (top access door) because when you need to grab something periodically, the cold air stays put instead of rolling out the way it does when a front loading freezer door opens. The freezer is rated to go down -22c, which sits just inside what research labs recommend for long term pep storage.

The bulk storage GLP case goes on the bottom. Tirz and Reta only in that one. I probably won't need to touch it for a few years...Above that, a long term storage case with a mix of GLP and non-GLP peps...Then a 3rd case on top of those holding 'working kits' that I'll pull from once or twice a year...Everything else lives in 'vial' cases, either in the bottom drawer of the refrigerator or in a desk drawer for everyday access...

I'm nearly at my goal of never having to reorder peps again, unless something new and shiny shows up down the road...

Which kind of freezer is that, Flash? That's pretty neat! And stay on the lookout...it's coming out shortly:

View attachment 10991

Alright, that got a chuckle out of me!...