HGH regulation and solution?

copepmuscle said:


I was referring to this statement:

"I'm even scared of adding CJC to it and even more scared of Tesamorelin"

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Wow, looney. CJC can cause some sides but tesa is as gentle as they come.
 
rkbleddyn said:


I think you are taking way to lightly just how deadly having fat in all your organs is. Maybe OK for you, but is the root cause of millions of men going to an early grave.

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Buddy, just lose weight. Exercise and track your calories. Visceral fat is the first to go. Unless you're a heavy drinker or have a condition you don't need to worry about visceral fat specifically.

What's the name of the influencer that made you so scared of visceral fat?
 
birdwhacker said:


Wow, looney. CJC can cause some sides but tesa is as gentle as they come.

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I'm not you and you are not me, eveyone is different. I actually discussed this with my Dr. For me, the reason I would avoid Tesa is that it is more prone to cause water retention, and every time I get fat like this, I get edema and I don't want any of that. So I'm starting with Ipa. Yeah, Tesa is probably going to target the visceral fat more quickly, but maybe not a good solution for me.
 
rkbleddyn said:


No sure why you are assuming I cannot stick with something for 6 months. You really don't have any idea of the things I've endured for long periods of time. I wasn't expecting to do any 'morelin' class drugs or anything else to magically make years of accumulated visceral fat disappear and I think you are taking way too lightly just how deadly having fat in all your organs is. Maybe OK for you, but is the root cause of millions of men going to an early grave.

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You really need to to some research, short sighted comes to mind!
 
rkbleddyn said:


I'm not you and you are not me, eveyone is different. I actually discussed this with my Dr. For me, the reason I would avoid Tesa is that it is more prone to cause water retention, and every time I get fat like this, I get edema and I don't want any of that. So I'm starting with Ipa. Yeah, Tesa is probably going to target the visceral fat more quickly, but maybe not a good solution for me.

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Tesa won't target visceral fat any more than GH or ipa will. It's merely had studies done specifically on that as a prelude to being marketed to HIV patients.

Water weight is just what happens when you increase growth hormone. If you're worried about it, simply start slow. If you truly have a need to "target visceral fat" then using both is the most effective way to go about that.

But you likely don't have more visceral fat than the average person at your weight and age. You need to do cardio and manage your caloric intake so that the GLP can do its job.

Any GLP drug will be dozens of times more effective than tesa/ipa for reducing visceral fat by virtue of making you lose weight.
 
rkbleddyn said:


I'm not you and you are not me, eveyone is different. I actually discussed this with my Dr. For me, the reason I would avoid Tesa is that it is more prone to cause water retention, and every time I get fat like this, I get edema and I don't want any of that. So I'm starting with Ipa. Yeah, Tesa is probably going to target the visceral fat more quickly, but maybe not a good solution for me.

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Not an attack genuine question. Interesting regarding water retention but isn't that also a concern with ipamoreline? What has your doctor said about the sourcing? Mine gave me leeway for a compounding pharmacy but was against any grey market participation. Still orders blood work for me but encourages me discontinue any other sources besides the compound pharmacy.
 
birdwhacker said:


Buddy, just lose weight. Exercise and track your calories. Visceral fat is the first to go. Unless you're a heavy drinker or have a condition you don't need to worry about visceral fat specifically.

What's the name of the influencer that made you so scared of visceral fat?

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I don't drink and I don't have some condition. For me, when I gain weight, I gain it in the abdominal region primarily. Glad to know you have the solution for me though, I guess I can stop researching and discussing with my GP.
 
rkbleddyn said:


I don't drink and I don't have some condition. For me, when I gain weight, I gain it in the abdominal region primarily.

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Just like everyone else. Abdominal fat is not visceral fat. Funny how you dodge every question that matters.

rkbleddyn said:


Glad to know you have the solution for me though, I guess I can stop researching and discussing with my GP.

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I do know the solution for you. It's the same solution for everyone, barring those with extreme conditions that change the nature of things.

You said you don't have any crazy conditions, so you're on the same playing field as everyone else here. You need to learn to play ball before that mindset keeps you fat. Count your calories and do cardio and the "visceral fat" will slide right off.
 
copepmuscle said:


Not an attack genuine question. Interesting regarding water retention but isn't that also a concern with ipamoreline? What has your doctor said about the sourcing? Mine gave me leeway for a compounding pharmacy but was against any grey market participation. Still orders blood work for me but encourages me discontinue any other sources besides the compound pharmacy.

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It is, but from what I can gather, not as much. If it does cause that, I can just stop it. I do my blood work and work with my GP. He shares sources with me and gets anything compounded that can be, like my Tirz. Ipa cannot be compounded of course, and he cannot prescribe Tesa since I don't have a specific condition for that. So we discuss this stuff, but he doesn't recommend it to me. Their practice is more of functional medicine and they are open to things outside the mainstream, but of course still stay inside of legal boundaries that could get them into trouble.
 
birdwhacker said:


Just like everyone else. Abdominal fat is not visceral fat. Funny how you dodge every question that matters.

I do know the solution for you. It's the same solution for everyone, barring those with extreme conditions that change the nature of things.

You said you don't have any crazy conditions, so you're on the same playing field as everyone else here. You need to learn to play ball before that mindset keeps you fat. Count your calories and do cardio and the "visceral fat" will slide right off.

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But it IS mostly visceral fat, I did a freaking MRI. Geez. Do you just like to argue with people and call them silly names? 🙄
 
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