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Man, don't even get me started. I hit 6"3 at 13, then some doctor handed me cortisone pills for a fever and my vertical growth just quit. The only thing that kept going were my feet. Size 16 shoes now. That guy cost me a minimum of 6 inches in height.Wacky said:
Thanks a bunch, I'll check out every one of those movements you mentioned.Smiter said:
Yeah, my bad. I had assumed an injury was behind your wrist issues. After reading your later posts, though, it's clear the cause is strength gains that are uneven and excessive, which creates an imbalance. Wanting to get taller suggests to me that you're a teenager. If that's the case, there's an age threshold for when all 8 wrist bones finish developing. Also, I noticed a significant mistake in your workout write-up. Give me a second to locate it.
Forearm work should never come BEFORE training a major body part. Put it afterward instead. Forearms, much like calves, react best to training that is high in both intensity and volume. That's an uncommon trait. Grippers, sledgehammer raises, plate pinch lifts, and the Sidewinder revolution 2.0 can all help you build wrist strength.Wacky said:
I wouldn't call it ego lifting—more like my grip is off. Everyone keeps telling me the wrist ought to stay aligned with the arm, and I can manage that for a few reps, but then I revert to the bent-back wrist position. I keep attempting to fix my form, yet I just can't lol. The pain showed up after I began using 35+ kilos on incline/flat benchpress. I'm aware not to ego lift because I tested ALL of my 1rm on every machine back when I started and ran the 60-80% calculation (I stayed at 65% initially), and my method is to target 8 clean reps; once I hit 9-10 clean reps without my form shifting too much, I add 2.5kg and build my reps back up, cycling like that. Lately, though, I've been stretching my wrists and doing wrist curls before chest + shoulder exercises.
yeah I kinda agree, but I don't want my shoulders to fall behind lol, my shoulders are pretty weak compared to the rest of my body.
The wrist pain only began a month ago when I started getting stronger on certain exercises, and I think it works like this: the muscle group I'm trying to bias is strong enough for the weight, but the supporting muscles/joints aren't, so maybe I need to focus more on forearm + wrist exercises so my wrists stop lagging behind.Crowreap said:
The reason I brought up all those workout metrics is that I figured his wrist pain showed up once he started training on a regular basis. So right now, I can't tell whether the wrist pain was something chronic—present even before he began training consistently—or whether it emerged afterward. If it came afterward, then the workout metrics are definitely useful. If it's been a long-standing problem, I honestly don't know what the move is
in that case, your point about it possibly being a medical issue, like arthritis, and needing some peps to address it might be on the money
On top of that, the whole wrist bone thing was news to me, so that's another topic I'll be researching. Lol I'm 18, so still a teenager. My height is 6'3 and honestly I'm a bit greedy about it lol, I figure 6'4 / 6'5 would be a chill height to land at. Since I'm pretty sure I can get there naturally, it doesn't stress me out much ( just a nice hope lol ).
Yeahh I can see it being helpful for older folks, my dad deals with loads of joint pain and stuff and I was thinking about getting bpc for him to help with those issues, but I don't think BPC would really solve my problem. The way I see it, bpc is more like a bandage on a wound instead of the wound actually healing ykwim? My guess is that my wrist strength is just lagging behind the strength of all my other muscles. Mostly because i kinda sorta used to skip forearm training. Whoops..
Nope... Collagen plus BpC = Wolverine mode unlocked.Wacky said:
Thanks a bunch, I'll check out every one of those movements you mentioned.Smiter said:
Yeah, my bad. I had assumed an injury was behind your wrist issues. After reading your later posts, though, it's clear the cause is strength gains that are uneven and excessive, which creates an imbalance. Wanting to get taller suggests to me that you're a teenager. If that's the case, there's an age threshold for when all 8 wrist bones finish developing. Also, I noticed a significant mistake in your workout write-up. Give me a second to locate it.
Forearm work should never come BEFORE training a major body part. Put it afterward instead. Forearms, much like calves, react best to training that is high in both intensity and volume. That's an uncommon trait. Grippers, sledgehammer raises, plate pinch lifts, and the Sidewinder revolution 2.0 can all help you build wrist strength.Wacky said:
I wouldn't call it ego lifting—more like my grip is off. Everyone keeps telling me the wrist ought to stay aligned with the arm, and I can manage that for a few reps, but then I revert to the bent-back wrist position. I keep attempting to fix my form, yet I just can't lol. The pain showed up after I began using 35+ kilos on incline/flat benchpress. I'm aware not to ego lift because I tested ALL of my 1rm on every machine back when I started and ran the 60-80% calculation (I stayed at 65% initially), and my method is to target 8 clean reps; once I hit 9-10 clean reps without my form shifting too much, I add 2.5kg and build my reps back up, cycling like that. Lately, though, I've been stretching my wrists and doing wrist curls before chest + shoulder exercises.
yeah I kinda agree, but I don't want my shoulders to fall behind lol, my shoulders are pretty weak compared to the rest of my body.
The wrist pain only began a month ago when I started getting stronger on certain exercises, and I think it works like this: the muscle group I'm trying to bias is strong enough for the weight, but the supporting muscles/joints aren't, so maybe I need to focus more on forearm + wrist exercises so my wrists stop lagging behind.Crowreap said:
The reason I brought up all those workout metrics is that I figured his wrist pain showed up once he started training on a regular basis. So right now, I can't tell whether the wrist pain was something chronic—present even before he began training consistently—or whether it emerged afterward. If it came afterward, then the workout metrics are definitely useful. If it's been a long-standing problem, I honestly don't know what the move is
in that case, your point about it possibly being a medical issue, like arthritis, and needing some peps to address it might be on the money
On top of that, the whole wrist bone thing was news to me, so that's another topic I'll be researching. Lol I'm 18, so still a teenager. My height is 6'3 and honestly I'm a bit greedy about it lol, I figure 6'4 / 6'5 would be a chill height to land at. Since I'm pretty sure I can get there naturally, it doesn't stress me out much ( just a nice hope lol ).
Yeahh I can see it being helpful for older folks, my dad deals with loads of joint pain and stuff and I was thinking about getting bpc for him to help with those issues, but I don't think BPC would really solve my problem. The way I see it, bpc is more like a bandage on a wound instead of the wound actually healing ykwim? My guess is that my wrist strength is just lagging behind the strength of all my other muscles. Mostly because i kinda sorta used to skip forearm training. Whoops..
BpC also speeds up recovery, so you can train more often, which matters when forearms need at least 4 sessions a week.Wacky said:
Thanks a bunch, I'll check out every one of those movements you mentioned.Smiter said:
Yeah, my bad. I had assumed an injury was behind your wrist issues. After reading your later posts, though, it's clear the cause is strength gains that are uneven and excessive, which creates an imbalance. Wanting to get taller suggests to me that you're a teenager. If that's the case, there's an age threshold for when all 8 wrist bones finish developing. Also, I noticed a significant mistake in your workout write-up. Give me a second to locate it.
Forearm work should never come BEFORE training a major body part. Put it afterward instead. Forearms, much like calves, react best to training that is high in both intensity and volume. That's an uncommon trait. Grippers, sledgehammer raises, plate pinch lifts, and the Sidewinder revolution 2.0 can all help you build wrist strength.Wacky said:
I wouldn't call it ego lifting—more like my grip is off. Everyone keeps telling me the wrist ought to stay aligned with the arm, and I can manage that for a few reps, but then I revert to the bent-back wrist position. I keep attempting to fix my form, yet I just can't lol. The pain showed up after I began using 35+ kilos on incline/flat benchpress. I'm aware not to ego lift because I tested ALL of my 1rm on every machine back when I started and ran the 60-80% calculation (I stayed at 65% initially), and my method is to target 8 clean reps; once I hit 9-10 clean reps without my form shifting too much, I add 2.5kg and build my reps back up, cycling like that. Lately, though, I've been stretching my wrists and doing wrist curls before chest + shoulder exercises.
yeah I kinda agree, but I don't want my shoulders to fall behind lol, my shoulders are pretty weak compared to the rest of my body.
The wrist pain only began a month ago when I started getting stronger on certain exercises, and I think it works like this: the muscle group I'm trying to bias is strong enough for the weight, but the supporting muscles/joints aren't, so maybe I need to focus more on forearm + wrist exercises so my wrists stop lagging behind.Crowreap said:
The reason I brought up all those workout metrics is that I figured his wrist pain showed up once he started training on a regular basis. So right now, I can't tell whether the wrist pain was something chronic—present even before he began training consistently—or whether it emerged afterward. If it came afterward, then the workout metrics are definitely useful. If it's been a long-standing problem, I honestly don't know what the move is
in that case, your point about it possibly being a medical issue, like arthritis, and needing some peps to address it might be on the money
On top of that, the whole wrist bone thing was news to me, so that's another topic I'll be researching. Lol I'm 18, so still a teenager. My height is 6'3 and honestly I'm a bit greedy about it lol, I figure 6'4 / 6'5 would be a chill height to land at. Since I'm pretty sure I can get there naturally, it doesn't stress me out much ( just a nice hope lol ).
Yeahh I can see it being helpful for older folks, my dad deals with loads of joint pain and stuff and I was thinking about getting bpc for him to help with those issues, but I don't think BPC would really solve my problem. The way I see it, bpc is more like a bandage on a wound instead of the wound actually healing ykwim? My guess is that my wrist strength is just lagging behind the strength of all my other muscles. Mostly because i kinda sorta used to skip forearm training. Whoops..
Nice, you've unlocked master-lifter status. JM doesn't only hit the triceps, it builds up your elbow tendons and makes them bulletproof against tendonitis down the road.Wacky said:
JM PRESS IS THE BEST, I SWEAR. Everyone else at my gym that I train with can't stand it, and I'm sitting there thinking, are you serious? It's incredible. My triceps have never been wrecked like this, and honestly the soreness is great because it tells me I'm putting in the work. As for how I perform it, I keep an extremely close eye on my technique. Thanks to that (and I'm not trying to brag here), my friends — the ones who coach other people through exercises — will wave me over to check form, since they're aware I'm super picky about it.
So yeah, that's why it stung a bit when folks assumed I was ego lifting
Screw that. We're men. Ego defines us. Without egos and without the balls to stand behind them, men are nothing. Ego lifting, dick lifting, nut-raising, all of it. Caveman sees, caveman wins, caveman enjoys women's lamentation. Bad to the Bone.Wacky said:
JM PRESS IS THE BEST, I SWEAR. Everyone else at my gym that I train with can't stand it, and I'm sitting there thinking, are you serious? It's incredible. My triceps have never been wrecked like this, and honestly the soreness is great because it tells me I'm putting in the work. As for how I perform it, I keep an extremely close eye on my technique. Thanks to that (and I'm not trying to brag here), my friends — the ones who coach other people through exercises — will wave me over to check form, since they're aware I'm super picky about it.
So yeah, that's why it stung a bit when folks assumed I was ego lifting
