Hej från Norden – en introduktion

[Gustaven]

Tjena!

Jag har varit missnöjd med hur min kropp ser ut och känns under en längre tid. Efter att ha läst om GLP-1-preparat och hört folks egna berättelser insåg jag att det vore rent dumt att inte testa.

Fick tirz utskrivet för snart 1 månad sedan, och enligt mig har resultaten redan varit rätt slående. Suget och det allmänna snacksuget är i princip helt borta, inga märkbara biverkningar, och en hel del vikt har redan försvunnit – och det på 2.5mg-dosen man börjar med!

Har ett tag läst om andra GLP-1, till exempel retatrutide, och om hur man får tag i dem på egen hand. Anledningen är helt enkelt att vägen via läkare och recept här i Sverige kan vara plågsamt långsam. Det kan gå flera veckor innan en läkare svarar, sedan ytterligare 1 vecka innan receptet kommer, och därefter kan lågt lager och krångliga, strikta fraktkrav göra att leveransen tar ännu 1 vecka. Det kan lämna dig med uppehåll på flera veckor mellan de där pennorna, vilket jag helst vill undvika om det går.

Och allt detta medan man tampas med den hänsynslösa och nedlåtande tonen inom både offentlig och privat vård, för att inte tala om de stora påslagen från big pharma...

Att hitta hit var mest en slump, men det har redan varit en riktig ögonöppnare att bara läsa i det tysta. Så många resurser, och så många olika tankesätt och alternativ jag aldrig ens hade kunnat föreställa mig!

Med det sagt är jag total nybörjare på allt detta, från jargongen till hur man gör saker rätt och vad som behövs. Jag hoppas att resan mot att bli påläst om allt detta inte blir alltför tuff.

Och till sist: jag är inte riktigt säker på vad min målvikt skulle vara, men jag vill åtminstone vara i tillräckligt bra form för att kunna springa ifrån ett serverrack när AI-upproret väl kommer.

 

[pepptid]

Du har hittat hit av samma anledning som jag!

Jag planerar att börja med reta och sedan trappa ner dosen av mounjaro. Ekonomin i att betala ur egen ficka är tuff.

Hej från Skåne

 

[Gustaven]

pepptid said:

Du har hittat hit av samma anledning som jag!

Jag planerar att börja med reta och sedan trappa ner dosen av mounjaro. Ekonomin i att betala ur egen ficka är tuff.

Hej från Skåne

Åh fan, tjena!

Yeah reta seems really intriguing, I'm eager to find out how everything pans out for you! No clue how tough they'll actually be about this regarding customs and such.

Lately I got pretty lucky — the doctor wrote me a prescription for a 15mg pen to take at a low dose, so it ought to stretch quite a while. Still hurts to pay for one of those, when you know how much more you'd get for the same money elsewhere...

Oddly enough, the pharmacist who was putting it together rang me, asked about the sharp increase in pen strength and attempted to dissuade me from it.

It should be shipping at the moment, but I still ended up using the golden dose from the previous pen just to make it through this week, so those hold-ups are still screwing me over.

 

[pepptid]

Gustaven said:

pepptid said:

Du har hittat hit av samma anledning som jag!

Jag planerar att börja med reta och sedan trappa ner dosen av mounjaro. Ekonomin i att betala ur egen ficka är tuff.

Hej från Skåne

Åh fan, tjena!

Yeah reta seems really intriguing, I'm eager to find out how everything pans out for you! No clue how tough they'll actually be about this regarding customs and such.

Lately I got pretty lucky — the doctor wrote me a prescription for a 15mg pen to take at a low dose, so it ought to stretch quite a while. Still hurts to pay for one of those, when you know how much more you'd get for the same money elsewhere...

Oddly enough, the pharmacist who was putting it together rang me, asked about the sharp increase in pen strength and attempted to dissuade me from it.

It should be shipping at the moment, but I still ended up using the golden dose from the previous pen just to make it through this week, so those hold-ups are still screwing me over.

Wow! Did you get this via landstinget vård, or through a telehealth doctor?

I went with blodtrycksdoktorn, and honestly their pricing was pretty fair. Seeing the doctor roughly once every other month only cost 100kr in patientavgift.

Then they switched over to a subscription setup — 299 or 399 per month, something along those lines — plus 100kr for each digital meeting with both doctor and nurse.

Yea... I'm not about to let myself get shafted like that. Time to source myself. Guess I just have to learn everything about crypto, "sterile lab in kitchen" techniques and so on .

 

[Gustaven]

pepptid said:

Gustaven said:

pepptid said:

Du har hittat hit av samma anledning som jag!

Jag planerar att börja med reta och sedan trappa ner dosen av mounjaro. Ekonomin i att betala ur egen ficka är tuff.

Hej från Skåne

Åh fan, tjena!

Yeah reta seems really intriguing, I'm eager to find out how everything pans out for you! No clue how tough they'll actually be about this regarding customs and such.

Lately I got pretty lucky — the doctor wrote me a prescription for a 15mg pen to take at a low dose, so it ought to stretch quite a while. Still hurts to pay for one of those, when you know how much more you'd get for the same money elsewhere...

Oddly enough, the pharmacist who was putting it together rang me, asked about the sharp increase in pen strength and attempted to dissuade me from it.

It should be shipping at the moment, but I still ended up using the golden dose from the previous pen just to make it through this week, so those hold-ups are still screwing me over.

Wow! Did you get this via landstinget vård, or through a telehealth doctor?

I went with blodtrycksdoktorn, and honestly their pricing was pretty fair. Seeing the doctor roughly once every other month only cost 100kr in patientavgift.

Then they switched over to a subscription setup — 299 or 399 per month, something along those lines — plus 100kr for each digital meeting with both doctor and nurse.

Yea... I'm not about to let myself get shafted like that. Time to source myself. Guess I just have to learn everything about crypto, "sterile lab in kitchen" techniques and so on .

I went with Doktera for telehealth! There's no video calls or meetings involved — you just fill out a form, then get answers via chat (which has its ups and downs), and the "visit" only costs the 100kr fee. They also don't mind if you count clicks or microdose.

Anywhere that pushed expensive subscriptions plus talks with dietists and the like was something I steered clear of like the plague — things are already expensive as they are.

A 15mg pen costs a lot upfront, but if I look after it, it ought to stretch around 6 months, which seems reasonable over time.

And yeah, all the how-tos on here are pretty overwhelming to get into! Crypto strikes me as the simplest piece, honestly. I'm hoping the pen lasts long enough for me to get set up here.

As for where to source everything for a kitchen lab up here in Sweden, I'm not really sure — but it should be easy enough to track down through Europe, right?

For syringes I've gone with kanyler.com before, which is quick (and discreet), so at least that side of things is simple.

 

[UnusualLLama]

Gustaven said:

pepptid said:

Gustaven said:

pepptid said:

Du har hittat hit av samma anledning som jag!

Jag planerar att börja med reta och sedan trappa ner dosen av mounjaro. Ekonomin i att betala ur egen ficka är tuff.

Hej från Skåne

Åh fan, tjena!

Yeah reta seems really intriguing, I'm eager to find out how everything pans out for you! No clue how tough they'll actually be about this regarding customs and such.

Lately I got pretty lucky — the doctor wrote me a prescription for a 15mg pen to take at a low dose, so it ought to stretch quite a while. Still hurts to pay for one of those, when you know how much more you'd get for the same money elsewhere...

Oddly enough, the pharmacist who was putting it together rang me, asked about the sharp increase in pen strength and attempted to dissuade me from it.

It should be shipping at the moment, but I still ended up using the golden dose from the previous pen just to make it through this week, so those hold-ups are still screwing me over.

Wow! Did you get this via landstinget vård, or through a telehealth doctor?

I went with blodtrycksdoktorn, and honestly their pricing was pretty fair. Seeing the doctor roughly once every other month only cost 100kr in patientavgift.

Then they switched over to a subscription setup — 299 or 399 per month, something along those lines — plus 100kr for each digital meeting with both doctor and nurse.

Yea... I'm not about to let myself get shafted like that. Time to source myself. Guess I just have to learn everything about crypto, "sterile lab in kitchen" techniques and so on .

I went with Doktera for telehealth! There's no video calls or meetings involved — you just fill out a form, then get answers via chat (which has its ups and downs), and the "visit" only costs the 100kr fee. They also don't mind if you count clicks or microdose.

Anywhere that pushed expensive subscriptions plus talks with dietists and the like was something I steered clear of like the plague — things are already expensive as they are.

A 15mg pen costs a lot upfront, but if I look after it, it ought to stretch around 6 months, which seems reasonable over time.

And yeah, all the how-tos on here are pretty overwhelming to get into! Crypto strikes me as the simplest piece, honestly. I'm hoping the pen lasts long enough for me to get set up here.

As for where to source everything for a kitchen lab up here in Sweden, I'm not really sure — but it should be easy enough to track down through Europe, right?

For syringes I've gone with kanyler.com before, which is quick (and discreet), so at least that side of things is simple.

I just have to give a shout-out to kanyler.com for being brought up! I'm only at the beginning of this, and in Sweden it genuinely seems simpler to obtain reta than to source the gear needed to administer it — my lab rat was left feeling like some kind of war criminal while hunting down syringes, filters, and everything else in that category.

 

[AllCourtTENNIS]

Välkommen

 

[LoneTaco]

Hej trevligt att träffa dig

 

[Gustaven]

Tack allihopa!

UnusualLLama said:

Gustaven said:

pepptid said:

Gustaven said:

pepptid said:

Du har hittat hit av samma anledning som jag!

Jag planerar att börja med reta och sedan trappa ner dosen av mounjaro. Ekonomin i att betala ur egen ficka är tuff.

Hej från Skåne

Åh fan, tjena!

Yeah reta seems really intriguing, I'm eager to find out how everything pans out for you! No clue how tough they'll actually be about this regarding customs and such.

Lately I got pretty lucky — the doctor wrote me a prescription for a 15mg pen to take at a low dose, so it ought to stretch quite a while. Still hurts to pay for one of those, when you know how much more you'd get for the same money elsewhere...

Oddly enough, the pharmacist who was putting it together rang me, asked about the sharp increase in pen strength and attempted to dissuade me from it.

It should be shipping at the moment, but I still ended up using the golden dose from the previous pen just to make it through this week, so those hold-ups are still screwing me over.

Wow! Did you get this via landstinget vård, or through a telehealth doctor?

I went with blodtrycksdoktorn, and honestly their pricing was pretty fair. Seeing the doctor roughly once every other month only cost 100kr in patientavgift.

Then they switched over to a subscription setup — 299 or 399 per month, something along those lines — plus 100kr for each digital meeting with both doctor and nurse.

Yea... I'm not about to let myself get shafted like that. Time to source myself. Guess I just have to learn everything about crypto, "sterile lab in kitchen" techniques and so on .

I went with Doktera for telehealth! There's no video calls or meetings involved — you just fill out a form, then get answers via chat (which has its ups and downs), and the "visit" only costs the 100kr fee. They also don't mind if you count clicks or microdose.

Anywhere that pushed expensive subscriptions plus talks with dietists and the like was something I steered clear of like the plague — things are already expensive as they are.

A 15mg pen costs a lot upfront, but if I look after it, it ought to stretch around 6 months, which seems reasonable over time.

And yeah, all the how-tos on here are pretty overwhelming to get into! Crypto strikes me as the simplest piece, honestly. I'm hoping the pen lasts long enough for me to get set up here.

As for where to source everything for a kitchen lab up here in Sweden, I'm not really sure — but it should be easy enough to track down through Europe, right?

For syringes I've gone with kanyler.com before, which is quick (and discreet), so at least that side of things is simple.

I just have to give a shout-out to kanyler.com for being brought up! I'm only at the beginning of this, and in Sweden it genuinely seems simpler to obtain reta than to source the gear needed to administer it — my lab rat was left feeling like some kind of war criminal while hunting down syringes, filters, and everything else in that category.

Och kul att det kanske var till nytta! Ja, det känns onekligen ganska skumt att försöka sköta någon form av egenvård här uppe.

Tyvärr har de inga filter, men jag tänker att sådana borde vara tillräckligt diskreta om man skaffar dem någon annanstans, om du inte har lyckats hitta några lokala sidor som har dem?

 

[UnusualLLama]

Gustaven said:

Tack allihopa!

UnusualLLama said:

Gustaven said:

pepptid said:

Gustaven said:

pepptid said:

Du har hittat hit av samma anledning som jag!

Jag planerar att börja med reta och sedan trappa ner dosen av mounjaro. Ekonomin i att betala ur egen ficka är tuff.

Hej från Skåne

Åh fan, tjena!

Yeah reta seems really intriguing, I'm eager to find out how everything pans out for you! No clue how tough they'll actually be about this regarding customs and such.

Lately I got pretty lucky — the doctor wrote me a prescription for a 15mg pen to take at a low dose, so it ought to stretch quite a while. Still hurts to pay for one of those, when you know how much more you'd get for the same money elsewhere...

Oddly enough, the pharmacist who was putting it together rang me, asked about the sharp increase in pen strength and attempted to dissuade me from it.

It should be shipping at the moment, but I still ended up using the golden dose from the previous pen just to make it through this week, so those hold-ups are still screwing me over.

Wow! Did you get this via landstinget vård, or through a telehealth doctor?

I went with blodtrycksdoktorn, and honestly their pricing was pretty fair. Seeing the doctor roughly once every other month only cost 100kr in patientavgift.

Then they switched over to a subscription setup — 299 or 399 per month, something along those lines — plus 100kr for each digital meeting with both doctor and nurse.

Yea... I'm not about to let myself get shafted like that. Time to source myself. Guess I just have to learn everything about crypto, "sterile lab in kitchen" techniques and so on .

I went with Doktera for telehealth! There's no video calls or meetings involved — you just fill out a form, then get answers via chat (which has its ups and downs), and the "visit" only costs the 100kr fee. They also don't mind if you count clicks or microdose.

Anywhere that pushed expensive subscriptions plus talks with dietists and the like was something I steered clear of like the plague — things are already expensive as they are.

A 15mg pen costs a lot upfront, but if I look after it, it ought to stretch around 6 months, which seems reasonable over time.

And yeah, all the how-tos on here are pretty overwhelming to get into! Crypto strikes me as the simplest piece, honestly. I'm hoping the pen lasts long enough for me to get set up here.

As for where to source everything for a kitchen lab up here in Sweden, I'm not really sure — but it should be easy enough to track down through Europe, right?

For syringes I've gone with kanyler.com before, which is quick (and discreet), so at least that side of things is simple.

I just have to give a shout-out to kanyler.com for being brought up! I'm only at the beginning of this, and in Sweden it genuinely seems simpler to obtain reta than to source the gear needed to administer it — my lab rat was left feeling like some kind of war criminal while hunting down syringes, filters, and everything else in that category.

Och kul att det kanske var till nytta! Ja, det känns onekligen ganska skumt att försöka sköta någon form av egenvård här uppe.

Tyvärr har de inga filter, men jag tänker att sådana borde vara tillräckligt diskreta om man skaffar dem någon annanstans, om du inte har lyckats hitta några lokala sidor som har dem?

No, I haven't — unless anything starts to concern me, I'll most likely just go without filters.

 

[UnusualLLama]

Speaking from experience, getting insulin pens via the internet in Sweden is remarkably straightforward—sites such as Kronans Apotek and the rest of the standard medical suppliers carry them. Needle packs for those pens can also be sourced without trouble from other vendors.

 

[Gustaven]

UnusualLLama said:

Speaking from experience, getting insulin pens via the internet in Sweden is remarkably straightforward—sites such as Kronans Apotek and the rest of the standard medical suppliers carry them. Needle packs for those pens can also be sourced without trouble from other vendors.

Honestly, that sounds like a solid plan! Syringes don't bother me (so far), though a pen is just so much handier.

I do wonder whether sourcing the right cartridges for them is straightforward, but perhaps they're universal too.

 

[UnusualLLama]

Gustaven said:

UnusualLLama said:

Speaking from experience, getting insulin pens via the internet in Sweden is remarkably straightforward—sites such as Kronans Apotek and the rest of the standard medical suppliers carry them. Needle packs for those pens can also be sourced without trouble from other vendors.

Honestly, that sounds like a solid plan! Syringes don't bother me (so far), though a pen is just so much handier.

I do wonder whether sourcing the right cartridges for them is straightforward, but perhaps they're universal too.

Efter att ha tittat runt – allt är fortfarande nytt för mig, så jag kan ha fel, men jag tror att jag har fått grepp om det – verkar det som att många av dem använder universella patroner (beroende på storlek) som inte är särskilt svåra att få tag på heller.

 

[pepptid]

Hur har det gått för dig?

Jag har varit ur spel ett tag, men nu har jag satt ihop en krypto-rutin för att äntligen kunna beställa .

Har du beställt och börjat bygga ett lager?

 

[Gustaven]

pepptid said:

Hur har det gått för dig?

Jag har varit ur spel ett tag, men nu har jag satt ihop en krypto-rutin för att äntligen kunna beställa .

Har du beställt och börjat bygga ett lager?

På något sätt lyckades jag missa det här, trots att jag tittar in i stort sett varje dag!

Jag har också tagit det lugnt, eftersom jag fortfarande har en hel del kvar av en vanlig Mounjaro-penna. Förmodligen blir det mer fart på grejerna och ett första försök att beställa någon gång efter sommaren.

Allt krypto har jag fortfarande kvar att fixa själv, så det är najs att du redan har fått igång det! Förhoppningsvis är det inte alltför besvärligt.

 

[JohannesSweden77]

Välkommen! Kul med några andra svenskar här.