Obvious_Reel
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Ditto lol
Grey market TRT?
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BlueDog55
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BTW... Gray market is the same as Black market. It's either legal to buy or it isn't.
Volkswagen57
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Must have Chinese pube oil
Calm Logic
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The potential consequences can be different, such as for buying/possessing prescription drugs without a prescription (like GLPs) vs. dangerous drugs (like clenbuterol) vs. controlled substances (like testosterone). And some overlap with each category sometimes, depending on the state.
Beansnapper
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I have several sources that I use when I want to rev my TRT a bit, or add in other compounds. The underground AS market has been around for decades, and you can take the BB community for the many peptides that are available now, like tesamorelin.
Indiana
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Lucky. Trying to get it here in Australia is next impossible!
Only trouble is a max of 200mg a week on-label for TRT. For us bigger guys, we need more. I use a doc who writes higher into "superphysiological" for symptoms (current reference ranges are way too low for most symptomatic relief). But seldom goes over 30-60 free, 1000-2000 total T. What sucks is I pay way more through a compounding pharmacy as a result, but it's the only way I know of outside grey.. On-label dosing & bunk reference ranges need to change.Calm Logic said:
Even the docs who refuse to do TRT will usually give in to a request for checking testosterone and other hormone levels, especially if there are complaints of symptoms like low libido, fatigue, etc. (A complaint of mild ED or performance anxiety is also good for getting Cialis 5 mg daily, which also seems good for the vascular system by raising nitric oxide.)
Not that anyone is usually interested, but HCG monotherapy is an alternative to testosterone for TRT:
Human Chorionic Gonadotropin monotherapy for the treatment of hypogonadal symptoms in men with total testosterone > 300 ng/dL - PMC
The 2018 American Urological Association guidelines on the Evaluation and Management of Testosterone Deficiency recommended that 300 ng/dL be used as the threshold for prescribing testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). However, it is not uncommon ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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gimmeshelter
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I've visited that site. As far as the vendors go, it seems you just get an email rather than a product list like the ones we see from vendors here. I'm not sure why it's so different. Over here we've got 20 vendors posting prices for peppers in a google sheet. On Meso there's only an email address, or am I missing something? I want to learn, but I'm taking my time.
gimmeshelter
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I'm curious how a low-dose TRT protocol would pair with my reta weight loss and weight training. That said, I'd need to get a fasted T panel first to really know where I stand.
Troposphere
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Buying it isn't really that different from other things.
My suggestion is to slow down and spend real time on meso, reading as much as you can about what being on TRT actually involves. At my last test my T was at the low end of normal, yet I didn't really have any low-T symptoms.
On top of that, I'd been in a heavy calorie deficit for several months, and that also lowers T levels. In the end I concluded that a potentially life-long commitment wasn't something I wanted.
Curiosity is fine, but you almost sound casual about it, and that's what I'd caution against. My advice for anything in the injectable space is to read until you believe you understand what's going on, and then keep reading.
skunkypotato
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After I came across a set of legitimate groups on telegram, locating reliable vendors became much simpler. It took some time, but I got there in the end. And no one is addressing me as "dear" either.