Getting the copper peptide right for crown thinning - dosing, serum, microneedling

[OzzyFit]

Indiana said:

A while back I gave it a go for a short stretch, but it hurt like hell! Keeping it going was the plan, but there was bleeding and it was expensive. Hopefully more replies land on this thread since I am interested too.

Was lidocaine applied beforehand?

 

[Indiana]

OzzyFit said:

Indiana said:

A while back I gave it a go for a short stretch, but it hurt like hell! Keeping it going was the plan, but there was bleeding and it was expensive. Hopefully more replies land on this thread since I am interested too.

Was lidocaine applied beforehand?

No, that never occurred to me. The GHK went in at the same time as the AHK as well, so my hair turned blue!

 

[Pocket]

Indiana said:

A while back I gave it a go for a short stretch, but it hurt like hell! Keeping it going was the plan, but there was bleeding and it was expensive. Hopefully more replies land on this thread since I am interested too.

How deep was the stamping you did? It is not something I have done myself, but my impression was that you keep the depth shallow enough that it never reaches the blood vessels. That could be completely wrong though.

 

[moodymama76]

Indiana said:

OzzyFit said:

Indiana said:

A while back I gave it a go for a short stretch, but it hurt like hell! Keeping it going was the plan, but there was bleeding and it was expensive. Hopefully more replies land on this thread since I am interested too.

Was lidocaine applied beforehand?

No, that never occurred to me. The GHK went in at the same time as the AHK as well, so my hair turned blue!

Serum is how I apply it. Colleagues at work keep being told my hair is not greasy, it is a treatment product.

 

[FartfulCodger]

Youarewhen said:

My AHK-Cu serum recipe:

Yields 60ml total:

| Ingredient | % | Volume |

|———————————————|

| Propylene Glycol | 60% | 36 ml |

| Ethanol (190 proof) | 30% | 18 ml |

| Distilled Water | 10% | 6 ml |

Dosing AHK-Cu between 1-3%:

• at 1% you need 0.6g
  
• at 2% you need 1.2g (this is the suggested start)
  
• at 3% you need 1.8g

The order matters: AHK-Cu dissolves into the PG first, ethanol goes in second, water last.

It lives in my fridge

Mind if I ask whether Everclear is what you use? Nothing labeled ethanol turns up in the pharmacies around Florida, and Everclear cannot legally be sold here. A small bottle of Everclear was something I made a point of buying on a trip to Delaware, but it is still unused.

 

[Pocket]

FartfulCodger said:

Youarewhen said:

My AHK-Cu serum recipe:

Yields 60ml total:

| Ingredient | % | Volume |

|———————————————|

| Propylene Glycol | 60% | 36 ml |

| Ethanol (190 proof) | 30% | 18 ml |

| Distilled Water | 10% | 6 ml |

Dosing AHK-Cu between 1-3%:

• at 1% you need 0.6g
  
• at 2% you need 1.2g (this is the suggested start)
  
• at 3% you need 1.8g

The order matters: AHK-Cu dissolves into the PG first, ethanol goes in second, water last.

It lives in my fridge

Mind if I ask whether Everclear is what you use? Nothing labeled ethanol turns up in the pharmacies around Florida, and Everclear cannot legally be sold here. A small bottle of Everclear was something I made a point of buying on a trip to Delaware, but it is still unused.

Obviously I cannot speak for Youarewhen, but full strength Everclear should do the job. 190 proof, after all.

 

[FartfulCodger]

jmikes said:

Cosmetic AHKCu powder goes into BAC water in a brown bottle for me. What comes out is quite watery but okay. A little glicerine is added to thicken it up. Watery is fine either way. An eye dropper puts some onto my scalp and I rub it in by hand. Bedtime is when this happens. On waking, minoxidil from Costco goes on. None of these get rinsed off.

As I understand it, alcohol carries AHK-Cu better than HA or water does. An ethanol-based solution apparently gets through the top layer of skin more effectively. That said, it came out of a conversation with ChatGPT. Ethanol was its specific suggestion, but with no ethanol to be found I went with 90% isopropyl alcohol, which it judged a workable option. Propylene glycol was also added, per the recipe it produced.

Worth saying that in the same session, alcohol solutions and microneedling do not play well together--the sting is considerable.

 

[FartfulCodger]

Pocket said:

FartfulCodger said:

Youarewhen said:

My AHK-Cu serum recipe:

Yields 60ml total:

| Ingredient | % | Volume |

|———————————————|

| Propylene Glycol | 60% | 36 ml |

| Ethanol (190 proof) | 30% | 18 ml |

| Distilled Water | 10% | 6 ml |

Dosing AHK-Cu between 1-3%:

• at 1% you need 0.6g
  
• at 2% you need 1.2g (this is the suggested start)
  
• at 3% you need 1.8g

The order matters: AHK-Cu dissolves into the PG first, ethanol goes in second, water last.

It lives in my fridge

Mind if I ask whether Everclear is what you use? Nothing labeled ethanol turns up in the pharmacies around Florida, and Everclear cannot legally be sold here. A small bottle of Everclear was something I made a point of buying on a trip to Delaware, but it is still unused.

Obviously I cannot speak for Youarewhen, but full strength Everclear should do the job. 190 proof, after all.

Yeah, my hope was to track down something labeled ethanol here in South Florida, cheaper and easier than driving to a liquor store in another state. Georgia is a long drive!

Denatured ethanol would be fine by me too, the sort with a bitter additive so nobody drinks it. Over in the Home Depot paint department there is a product called "Fuel" that I hesitated over. Denatured ethanol is my belief, but sitting next to the paint strippers made me uneasy.

 

[Pocket]

FartfulCodger said:

Pocket said:

FartfulCodger said:

Youarewhen said:

My AHK-Cu serum recipe:

Yields 60ml total:

| Ingredient | % | Volume |

|———————————————|

| Propylene Glycol | 60% | 36 ml |

| Ethanol (190 proof) | 30% | 18 ml |

| Distilled Water | 10% | 6 ml |

Dosing AHK-Cu between 1-3%:

• at 1% you need 0.6g
  
• at 2% you need 1.2g (this is the suggested start)
  
• at 3% you need 1.8g

The order matters: AHK-Cu dissolves into the PG first, ethanol goes in second, water last.

It lives in my fridge

Mind if I ask whether Everclear is what you use? Nothing labeled ethanol turns up in the pharmacies around Florida, and Everclear cannot legally be sold here. A small bottle of Everclear was something I made a point of buying on a trip to Delaware, but it is still unused.

Obviously I cannot speak for Youarewhen, but full strength Everclear should do the job. 190 proof, after all.

Yeah, my hope was to track down something labeled ethanol here in South Florida, cheaper and easier than driving to a liquor store in another state. Georgia is a long drive!

Denatured ethanol would be fine by me too, the sort with a bitter additive so nobody drinks it. Over in the Home Depot paint department there is a product called "Fuel" that I hesitated over. Denatured ethanol is my belief, but sitting next to the paint strippers made me uneasy.

Sending a dm your way.

 

[Indiana]

moodymama76 said:

Indiana said:

OzzyFit said:

Indiana said:

A while back I gave it a go for a short stretch, but it hurt like hell! Keeping it going was the plan, but there was bleeding and it was expensive. Hopefully more replies land on this thread since I am interested too.

Was lidocaine applied beforehand?

No, that never occurred to me. The GHK went in at the same time as the AHK as well, so my hair turned blue!

Serum is how I apply it. Colleagues at work keep being told my hair is not greasy, it is a treatment product.

Yeah, that trick was never going to fly with my hair blue!