finding maintenance dose

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I hit my goal weight after roughly 11 months of reta ...then i quit abruptly, put on about 15 lbs (basically cold turkey in life) about 3 months ago i started reta again and during the past month i began tapering down and im currently on 2mg per week for the past 4 weeks...for me this dose feels like its just barely not enough, though im unsure whether its psychological, like having gotten so accustomed to not needing to eat while on reta versus 2mg i feel as though i need to eat - i appear to be hovering at roughly plus minus 3 pounds over the last month so It seems like the dose is doing its job yet simultaneously not doing its job. I realize that sounds strange.

Im curious whether anyone has managed to shift their mindset successfully when it comes to leaving the weight loss phase behind and moving into maintenance? I believe eli lily is running 4mg trials at the moment, which for me leans more toward a weight loss dose rather than maintenance.

Sorry for going on. I hope this message makes some semblance of sense.

Tyler
 
The amount of reta you were taking when you first shed the weight isn't stated. That detail matters quite a bit. Based on what the evidence shows, keeping the weight off generally requires continuing at the same dose that produced the loss. A handful of members here appear to manage on reduced doses, and experimenting with going lower isn't especially risky, provided that you bump the dose back up if weight starts creeping on or appetite becomes troublesome. How much weight was lost overall also counts. Maintaining a big loss likely calls for stronger doses.

I'm honestly unclear on what the problem with the dose is. Whatever dose works is the correct one, and 2mg alongside 4mg are both on the low end. Plus, if eating always feels like a battle, that makes long-term tolerability less likely. Is your worry that raising the dose to tame hunger would cause you to lose more weight than you want?

When obesity was severe, or you're older, or you have health conditions tied to obesity, there's a solid case for pushing to the highest doses you can tolerate in order to lower future risks such as diabetes, heart disease, strokes and so on.
 
lessthanhalf said:

The amount of reta you were taking when you first shed the weight isn't stated. That detail matters quite a bit. Based on what the evidence shows, keeping the weight off generally requires continuing at the same dose that produced the loss. A handful of members here appear to manage on reduced doses, and experimenting with going lower isn't especially risky, provided that you bump the dose back up if weight starts creeping on or appetite becomes troublesome. How much weight was lost overall also counts. Maintaining a big loss likely calls for stronger doses.

I'm honestly unclear on what the problem with the dose is. Whatever dose works is the correct one, and 2mg alongside 4mg are both on the low end. Plus, if eating always feels like a battle, that makes long-term tolerability less likely. Is your worry that raising the dose to tame hunger would cause you to lose more weight than you want?

When obesity was severe, or you're older, or you have health conditions tied to obesity, there's a solid case for pushing to the highest doses you can tolerate in order to lower future risks such as diabetes, heart disease, strokes and so on.
This has been on my mind a lot lately. My guess is that I'll reach my goal weight within 2-3 months. I moved up from 7mg to 8mg just yesterday. I was thinking I could simply go down to 2mg and hold steady, but it sounds like it might take some experimenting to get right.
 
lessthanhalf said:

The amount of reta you were taking when you first shed the weight isn't stated. That detail matters quite a bit. Based on what the evidence shows, keeping the weight off generally requires continuing at the same dose that produced the loss. A handful of members here appear to manage on reduced doses, and experimenting with going lower isn't especially risky, provided that you bump the dose back up if weight starts creeping on or appetite becomes troublesome. How much weight was lost overall also counts. Maintaining a big loss likely calls for stronger doses.

I'm honestly unclear on what the problem with the dose is. Whatever dose works is the correct one, and 2mg alongside 4mg are both on the low end. Plus, if eating always feels like a battle, that makes long-term tolerability less likely. Is your worry that raising the dose to tame hunger would cause you to lose more weight than you want?

When obesity was severe, or you're older, or you have health conditions tied to obesity, there's a solid case for pushing to the highest doses you can tolerate in order to lower future risks such as diabetes, heart disease, strokes and so on.
during the bulk of my weight loss, i was taking somewhere between 4 and 8mg weekly - wouldn't dropping to the lowest effective amount be ideal for maintenance? personally, i haven't come across anyone saying you must remain at your prior dose..
 
shepherdoffat said:

lessthanhalf said:

The amount of reta you were taking when you first shed the weight isn't stated. That detail matters quite a bit. Based on what the evidence shows, keeping the weight off generally requires continuing at the same dose that produced the loss. A handful of members here appear to manage on reduced doses, and experimenting with going lower isn't especially risky, provided that you bump the dose back up if weight starts creeping on or appetite becomes troublesome. How much weight was lost overall also counts. Maintaining a big loss likely calls for stronger doses.

I'm honestly unclear on what the problem with the dose is. Whatever dose works is the correct one, and 2mg alongside 4mg are both on the low end. Plus, if eating always feels like a battle, that makes long-term tolerability less likely. Is your worry that raising the dose to tame hunger would cause you to lose more weight than you want?

When obesity was severe, or you're older, or you have health conditions tied to obesity, there's a solid case for pushing to the highest doses you can tolerate in order to lower future risks such as diabetes, heart disease, strokes and so on.
during the bulk of my weight loss, i was taking somewhere between 4 and 8mg weekly - wouldn't dropping to the lowest effective amount be ideal for maintenance? personally, i haven't come across anyone saying you must remain at your prior dose..
Are you trying to stay at the weight with the extra 15 lbs, or do you want to drop what came back? That's the reason people asked what dose you were on while you were still dropping weight. For you, it doesn't look like 2mg is the "as low as possible for maintenance" point. Go back up to the dose where you were losing, and if the weight comes off again at that amount, then taper down gradually until you settle at a stable point.
 
once you have fat and then shed it, the fat cell doesn't disappear. It just shrinks, yet it still holds onto the memory of its former size. That means every one of those cells will push you toward eating more, trying to refill itself. So stopping abruptly after hitting your goal weight isn't wise, since (as you've seen for yourself and as many others online have pointed out) the weight comes back very quickly. You need to hold at your goal weight for roughly 2 years so those fat cells are completely eliminated; only then can you stop reta without rapidly regaining weight.
 
longestyards said:

once you have fat and then shed it, the fat cell doesn't disappear. It just shrinks, yet it still holds onto the memory of its former size. That means every one of those cells will push you toward eating more, trying to refill itself. So stopping abruptly after hitting your goal weight isn't wise, since (as you've seen for yourself and as many others online have pointed out) the weight comes back very quickly. You need to hold at your goal weight for roughly 2 years so those fat cells are completely eliminated; only then can you stop reta without rapidly regaining weight.
yeah, i believe you're correct - appreciate it
 
lessthanhalf said:

The amount of reta you were taking when you first shed the weight isn't stated. That detail matters quite a bit. Based on what the evidence shows, keeping the weight off generally requires continuing at the same dose that produced the loss. A handful of members here appear to manage on reduced doses, and experimenting with going lower isn't especially risky, provided that you bump the dose back up if weight starts creeping on or appetite becomes troublesome. How much weight was lost overall also counts. Maintaining a big loss likely calls for stronger doses.

I'm honestly unclear on what the problem with the dose is. Whatever dose works is the correct one, and 2mg alongside 4mg are both on the low end. Plus, if eating always feels like a battle, that makes long-term tolerability less likely. Is your worry that raising the dose to tame hunger would cause you to lose more weight than you want?

When obesity was severe, or you're older, or you have health conditions tied to obesity, there's a solid case for pushing to the highest doses you can tolerate in order to lower future risks such as diabetes, heart disease, strokes and so on.

That's not something I've come across either.
 
Forum lore and trial data don't always line up. Around here, the usual advice pushes the smallest dose that produces weight loss and the smallest dose that holds it off. That approach targets side effects, not benefits, and it produces a steady stream of threads asking why an obviously too-small dose isn't delivering the results someone wants.

My claim that the evidence favors keeping the original dose comes from the long-term follow-up of the semaglutide and tirzepatide trials. In those, weight stayed stable for as long as 4 years on the same dose used for loss, with no drift in either direction, right up until the trial ended and the drug stopped, at which point regain came fast even after nearly 5 years. A maintenance dose that was too high would have pushed more loss; one too low would have allowed regain. Neither happened at the loss dose. That, to me, is strong evidence from large, well-run trials that the dose which takes the weight off is the dose that keeps it off (provided loss had already stalled or plateaued, which it had in those studies).

Grey peptides come with a real drawback: no clinician in the loop. A knowledgeable endocrinologist would already understand this, even if a typical GP might not.

Specific long-term maintenance research with GLP's is still thin, and much of it tries lower doses, but I haven't seen convincing results from those efforts because of methodological problems. Better studies will arrive over the years, but for now the strongest information comes from the long-term follow-up of the original large trials.

After weight loss, particularly a large amount, energy expenditure falls: fewer cells are burning energy, and the metabolism adapts to prolonged low intake. Holding that lower weight therefore means eating less than was normal at the higher weight, and usually less than someone at that same weight who never lost anything. Hunger climbs at the same time, because the body is trying to drag you back to its abnormally high set point. Low energy needs plus extra hunger is what makes long-term maintenance almost impossible, and without GLP drugs very few pull it off.

For anyone who lost weight on GLP drugs, continuing them addresses exactly this: they blunt the excess hunger created by weight loss. With reta in particular, higher doses also raise energy expenditure by 1-200 kcal/day, and the drugs help correct many obesity-related metabolic problems such as insulin resistance, which further supports maintenance.

A second reason to stay on GLP drugs long term, particularly when obesity is or was severe, is cardiovascular prevention. Higher doses appear more effective than lower ones here. People with severe obesity are, almost by definition, already in the high-risk group for cardiovascular disease, and everyone should have blood pressure, lipids and blood sugars checked to see whether those need treatment too. Continuing the drugs prevents diabetes, heart disease, stroke, about 17 different cancers, lowers blood pressure, and improves lipids and blood sugars. This is proven for sema and tirz, not yet for reta, though given its mechanism it will likely be proven within the next few years. Past 40, and more so with age, these stop being abstract future problems: the odds of a heart attack over the next decade might reach 10-20%, so taking steps to lower that risk makes sense. Damage already done isn't truly reversible (short of bypasses or stents) and can only be kept from worsening, so prevention is clearly better. Had I acted correctly a decade ago, or had these drugs existed then, I might have avoided developing heart disease; as it stands, I can still try to keep it from progressing.

Weight loss isn't really the difficult part. Most people with obesity have shed often substantial amounts through various diets over the years, only to regain nearly all of it once they eased off the diet, myself included.

Long-term maintenance is the genuinely hard part, because it demands eating less than your body tells you to for years, and the drive to eat is deeply wired and very hard to resist over that span. I went from 145 to 75 kg mostly without glp drugs and held it for a year or so, and it wasn't my first time, but it was hard, and even with a carefully built diet to keep hunger down I was more or less permanently hungry. In all likelihood it would eventually have failed like every other attempt in my life, despite the fairly large medical risks of regaining. Fortunately I found a way to get GLP drugs without being rich, and it has made maintenance far less difficult and improved the odds of keeping the weight off long term.
 
I'm basically sitting at my target weight, only 1-3 pounds above it. Getting all the way there hasn't happened. So it looks like the dose I'm already taking is my maintenance dose — roughly 5 mg each week.

My hope had been that maintenance would land at 1mg/wk, but right now that doesn't look realistic.
 
cujet said:

I'm basically sitting at my target weight, only 1-3 pounds above it. Getting all the way there hasn't happened. So it looks like the dose I'm already taking is my maintenance dose — roughly 5 mg each week.

My hope had been that maintenance would land at 1mg/wk, but right now that doesn't look realistic.

In real terms, how do 1mg and 5mg per week differ?
 
woundcarping said:

cujet said:

I'm basically sitting at my target weight, only 1-3 pounds above it. Getting all the way there hasn't happened. So it looks like the dose I'm already taking is my maintenance dose — roughly 5 mg each week.

My hope had been that maintenance would land at 1mg/wk, but right now that doesn't look realistic.

In real terms, how do 1mg and 5mg per week differ?
4mg. Sorry.

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Hi,

I've also been thinking about what maintenance dose lands in the Goldilocks zone. For me, the sticking point has been the caloric deficit. I began at 2mg once a week in Jan 26. That got me down 30 lbs, from 208 to 178. In Apr 2026 I moved to four to push toward my GW(170lbs), but I was geeked out and couldn't sleep. So now I'm on 3mg split (1.5mg 2x).

I'm sitting around 180, but I'm still on the same diet from Jan. The meals I settled on are ones I'm happy with.

So that leaves me in a 300-600 per day deficit.

Fatigue isn't really an issue. Muscle loss is average (adding more resistance actually let me gain some).

Eating less suits me. Yet the scale isn't moving. Titrating down could make me hungrier, which would pull me out of deficit, but I might put weight back on.

I was considering titrating off. Then bulk and gain muscle. Then cut with Reta again.

Ideally, I'd want the energy and zing that 4mg of Reta gives, add something for Sleep (TESA), but be out of caloric deficit. Make sense?
 
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