Fentanyl warning

[Chili777]

CandyCap said:

Johnny D said:

Chili777 said:

FYI, from the interwebs:

After the positive fentanyl strip results that were tied to liquid 5-Amino-1MQ sold by the vendor Beebo, Vanguard Laboratory has now run more testing. Dustin from Vanguard tested 10 separate 5-Amino-1MQ samples from different suppliers, covering vials, capsules and an authenticated Sigma-Aldrich reference standard.

At high concentration, every sample, the reference standard included, gave a presumptive positive on the fentanyl strips. When the samples were diluted per the strip manufacturer’s instructions, though, all of them came back negative.

In other words, that means fentanyl tends to show up in false positive tests, correct??

If street coke comes back positive, there's no way I'd touch it...just sayin'

Yes, drugs bought on the street are a completely different matter. When a test strip is your only tool, you should definitely take its result seriously.

 

[CandyCap]

Chili777 said:

Johnny D said:

Chili777 said:

FYI, from the interwebs:

After the positive fentanyl strip results that were tied to liquid 5-Amino-1MQ sold by the vendor Beebo, Vanguard Laboratory has now run more testing. Dustin from Vanguard tested 10 separate 5-Amino-1MQ samples from different suppliers, covering vials, capsules and an authenticated Sigma-Aldrich reference standard.

At high concentration, every sample, the reference standard included, gave a presumptive positive on the fentanyl strips. When the samples were diluted per the strip manufacturer’s instructions, though, all of them came back negative.

In other words, that means fentanyl tends to show up in false positive tests, correct??

When the dilution guidelines aren't followed, that seems to be the case. Vanguard mentioned that their strips also show positive results, yet upon checking with LC-MS, the findings turn out negative. A positive strip merely indicates that more testing is needed, provided it's used as directed.

During testing, the expectation is that you break down your entire supply — the full pill or rock, for instance. Fentanyl has a tendency to cluster together. A small sample might come back clean, yet an untested portion could hold a large concentrated pocket.

So the approach is: break down everything, run the test, and afterward let it dry out.

 

[Johnny D]

CandyCap said:

Chili777 said:

Johnny D said:

Chili777 said:

FYI, from the interwebs:

After the positive fentanyl strip results that were tied to liquid 5-Amino-1MQ sold by the vendor Beebo, Vanguard Laboratory has now run more testing. Dustin from Vanguard tested 10 separate 5-Amino-1MQ samples from different suppliers, covering vials, capsules and an authenticated Sigma-Aldrich reference standard.

At high concentration, every sample, the reference standard included, gave a presumptive positive on the fentanyl strips. When the samples were diluted per the strip manufacturer’s instructions, though, all of them came back negative.

In other words, that means fentanyl tends to show up in false positive tests, correct??

When the dilution guidelines aren't followed, that seems to be the case. Vanguard mentioned that their strips also show positive results, yet upon checking with LC-MS, the findings turn out negative. A positive strip merely indicates that more testing is needed, provided it's used as directed.

During testing, the expectation is that you break down your entire supply — the full pill or rock, for instance. Fentanyl has a tendency to cluster together. A small sample might come back clean, yet an untested portion could hold a large concentrated pocket.

So the approach is: break down everything, run the test, and afterward let it dry out.

That said, using street drugs is still like playing Russian roulette.

The reason is that in both lab studies and tests on street samples, fentanyl test strips give a false negative result somewhere between 1.5% and 3.7% of the time.

In practical terms, that works out to about 1 to 4 false negatives for every 100 tests, meaning fentanyl can be there but go undetected.

 

[CandyCap]

Johnny D said:

CandyCap said:

Chili777 said:

Johnny D said:

Chili777 said:

FYI, from the interwebs:

After the positive fentanyl strip results that were tied to liquid 5-Amino-1MQ sold by the vendor Beebo, Vanguard Laboratory has now run more testing. Dustin from Vanguard tested 10 separate 5-Amino-1MQ samples from different suppliers, covering vials, capsules and an authenticated Sigma-Aldrich reference standard.

At high concentration, every sample, the reference standard included, gave a presumptive positive on the fentanyl strips. When the samples were diluted per the strip manufacturer’s instructions, though, all of them came back negative.

In other words, that means fentanyl tends to show up in false positive tests, correct??

When the dilution guidelines aren't followed, that seems to be the case. Vanguard mentioned that their strips also show positive results, yet upon checking with LC-MS, the findings turn out negative. A positive strip merely indicates that more testing is needed, provided it's used as directed.

During testing, the expectation is that you break down your entire supply — the full pill or rock, for instance. Fentanyl has a tendency to cluster together. A small sample might come back clean, yet an untested portion could hold a large concentrated pocket.

So the approach is: break down everything, run the test, and afterward let it dry out.

That said, using street drugs is still like playing Russian roulette.

The reason is that in both lab studies and tests on street samples, fentanyl test strips give a false negative result somewhere between 1.5% and 3.7% of the time.

In practical terms, that works out to about 1 to 4 false negatives for every 100 tests, meaning fentanyl can be there but go undetected.

My guess is that a lot of those cases come down to mistakes made by the person doing the test.

Even so...you should still test whatever you're taking.

 

[Throttle883]

CandyCap said:

Throttle883 said:

Airborne Daddy said:

Throttle883 said:

CandyCap said:

Johnny D said:

A friend received this warning by email.

I don't know whether it's genuine.

Has anyone else received something like this??





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This dates back a few weeks. Jano forwarded the sample to their national lab. The results from the national lab: negative for fent, and also negative for the top 15 fent analogues.

Reading this really got me anxious! I also just bought a 5 Amino kit.

If those were cut with fent, the money-hungry pricks would charge an extra 30 bucks per kit. 25,000 endos? "You got Kim Chee on a good day, knocked 7 dollars off a kit! Spread the word..."

Wow… 5 Amillion now?!

I’ve actually seen street Fent before. It was no bigger than the tip of a pencil.

And the person on it had OD’d — blue lips, blue face — and they were hitting him with Narcan.

(E) He made it!!!! He’s clean and thriving now. Watching that just completely stunned me.

I give my time to a non-profit that belongs to a friend.

We distribute fent tests and Narcan, plus we teach people in the community. My knowledge about fent is way beyond what I ever cared to have.

That's the reason I've got a million fent tests.

Appreciate you stepping up! Your efforts are making a real impact!

 

[Gt3294a]

Johnny D said:

Chili777 said:

FYI, from the interwebs:

After the positive fentanyl strip results that were tied to liquid 5-Amino-1MQ sold by the vendor Beebo, Vanguard Laboratory has now run more testing. Dustin from Vanguard tested 10 separate 5-Amino-1MQ samples from different suppliers, covering vials, capsules and an authenticated Sigma-Aldrich reference standard.

At high concentration, every sample, the reference standard included, gave a presumptive positive on the fentanyl strips. When the samples were diluted per the strip manufacturer’s instructions, though, all of them came back negative.

In other words, that means fentanyl tends to show up in false positive tests, correct??

These days, a fair amount of court action surrounds this. Cheap tests give wrong positives at a pretty high rate. So picture a positive result, then being pushed to accept a deal for a minor charge, and believing you have no choice. Later, proof emerges about how unreliable those low-cost tests are. Many decades back, I worked in this area. Still, what caught my attention about the contamination angle was that nearly every counterfeit pill, such as fake benzos and adderal, now contains some fentanyl. Would those same people also produce amino 5? Even so, on several levels, I still struggle to wrap my head around it.