End users facing legal action: any known cases?

You could run into issues if you import GLP1s (so those of you paying with crypto to order straight from Chinese labs are taking a small but non-zero chance) but no federal statute makes simply possessing these chemicals a crime.
 
libertarianguy said:

You could run into issues if you import GLP1s (so those of you paying with crypto to order straight from Chinese labs are taking a small but non-zero chance) but no federal statute makes simply possessing these chemicals a crime.
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Who would be the one causing trouble?
 
In the US the rules differ, but Australia makes it clear-cut: bringing in any scheduled substance—covering every prescription medication, a big number still in development, and certain drugs that qualify merely by their class even when not listed, like dermorphin—without both a prescription and an import permit is a criminal offence. I checked this thoroughly prior to placing an order. I've never come across a case of someone importing glp's being prosecuted; customs appears simply to seize them instead of pursuing charges, though they retain the option to do so. My guess is that plenty of other nations have comparable laws.
 
lessthanhalf said:

In the US the rules differ, but Australia makes it clear-cut: bringing in any scheduled substance—covering every prescription medication, a big number still in development, and certain drugs that qualify merely by their class even when not listed, like dermorphin—without both a prescription and an import permit is a criminal offence. I checked this thoroughly prior to placing an order. I've never come across a case of someone importing glp's being prosecuted; customs appears simply to seize them instead of pursuing charges, though they retain the option to do so. My guess is that plenty of other nations have comparable laws.
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I imagine that if they wanted to, the authorities could look into this and bring charges. Legally speaking, because this is probably a criminal act in plenty of places, guilty verdicts are definitely within reach—but does that happen often? Across Europe, it is frequently possible for authorities to get a search warrant and then potentially go after end users for buying unapproved medicines illegally.
 
Mr. Blonde said:

Federal agents aren't going to look into someone purchasing $100 of tirzepatide. Turn on the news—even when cases are handed to them on a platter, they don't manage much.

And local police? hahahahaha....you're fine 👍
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In the same vein, here is something from a law enforcement officer (seemingly) on Reddit, addressing international shipping of harder drugs (where state-level laws tend not to be enforced):

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/myfriendwantstoknow/comments/xdg7p9/comment/ioe9su3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
 
The takeaway: when local police handle substances at the felony level that way, then even less common peptides such as HGH might not be a major concern for them.

Molly is not a narcotic; it is a stimulant/hallucinogen. Even so, the feds and most states place it in Schedule I, while some states label it a "dangerous drug." That makes it clearly more serious than any peptide.
 
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Radxpro43 said:

I wouldn't have that information. As long as it comes from a pharmacy with a prescription, everything we handle is strictly for research use and not meant for human consumption. 😉 That's exactly how the rats in my garden prefer it.
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From what I know, hgh-related enforcement targets people who sell or supply to others, not the person using it themselves.
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For simple possession, it varies by state:

Gemini said:


State-by-State Legal Categorization of HGH

StateLegal StatusTypical Penalty (Personal Use)Primary Enforcement MethodNevadaSchedule IIICategory E FelonySpecifically enumerated in NAC 453.015. One of the strictest in the US.West VirginiaSchedule IIIMisdemeanor / FelonyWV Code §60A-2-208; includes hCG and growth hormones in steroid schedules.Rhode IslandSchedule IIIMisdemeanor (Up to 1 yr)Categorized under the state's Uniform Controlled Substances Act.TexasDangerous DrugClass A MisdemeanorHealth & Safety Code 483; carries up to 1 year in county jail and $4,000 fine.ArizonaPrescription-OnlyClass 1 MisdemeanorARS § 13-3406; illegal to possess, use, or transport without a valid script.FloridaPrescription Drug2nd Degree MisdemeanorF.S. 499.005(12); Possession without a script is a "Prohibited Act."CaliforniaPrescription-OnlyMisdemeanorHandled under Health and Safety Code 11350 as a non-scheduled drug crime.Federal (CBP)FDCA Legend DrugCivil Seizure / FineSimple possession is a gray area; Importation is the primary target.

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Why is Nevada going after HgH like this? That's wild.
 
Nevada had genuine concerns that alternative health clinics were endangering patients who were already sick, particularly because those clinics performed no proper due diligence:


James Forsythe, MD and Frank Shallenberger, MD, legal troubles


Forsythe had improperly diagnosed a patient, who was actually an undercover FDA agent, with hypopituitism without conducting relevant tests, obtained hGH by claiming in a letter to U.S. Customs that he needed it for "personal use," and sold it directly to the patient rather than writing a prescription that could be filled at an ordinary pharmacy.

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Las Vegas was historically one of the biggest markets in the world for hormone replacement and anti-aging clinics.

It’s easy to frame this as "Big Medicine vs. The Underdog," but for a state regulator, it’s usually about the duty of care. If a clinic isn't performing basic blood work or imaging before prescribing a heavy regimen of supplements or IV drips, they aren't just being "alternative"—they're being negligent.

Prosecutors argued that marketing HGH to terminally ill patients as a "wellness" or "anti-aging" booster was a form of medical fraud because the risks (cancer progression) outweighed the unproven benefits for those patients.

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Down in Australia, the regulations are notably tighter overall, and the enforcement actions I've come across tend to involve "wellness" or cosmetic clinics, plus people importing steroids. When something is a prescription medication or scheduled in any jurisdiction (and on the typical Chinese peptide list, 99% appear as scheduled drugs on their books, even those not yet released), it must comply with the rules governing who may prescribe and administer it. That's how one person ended up caught selling botox via facebook to a different clinic that had run out. Handing over or selling a prescription medication to anyone besides the individual the doctor wrote it for is prohibited. Naturally, these clinics continue to operate here regardless, yet occasionally charges are brought for failing to follow the rules—for instance, nurses at such clinics supplying prescription drugs / Chinese peptides absent a doctor's prescription, though typically this only surfaces when something goes wrong and triggers an investigation, or when a complaint is filed.
 
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