DeeSol said:
jimmyjames01 said:
DeeSol said:
I workout @ 5am. I'm up at 4/415 am. MOTS-C shot goes in around 4:25am. Timing shouldn't make much difference as long as you get it into your system (someone correct me if I'm wrong).
I'd been dosing it daily @ 1-1.5mg each morning, and have just recently switched to 2.5mg MWF to cut down the injection frequency. Tbh I haven't noticed much of a difference.
Do you have pre-workout or eat something before training, or does mot-c alone carry you through the session?
I just came across info saying it needs to be taken fasted, and now I'm concerned that taking pre-workout and carbs soon afterward means I'm not getting the full benefit.
Indeed! Back when I took it daily, I'd use it before training. I'd still consume carbs from EAAs plus Cluster Dextrin (totaling 25-30g carbs) along with a caffeine tablet prior to or during my session. If not, I'd become Hypoglycemic.
Honestly, I believe you're okay whether you consume carbs or stay fasted. Ultimately, it comes down to your calorie deficit. Worth mentioning, mots-c clearly enhances insulin sensitivity, so it helps direct carbs into your muscles more effectively.
CharlieBrown said:
DeeSol said:
I workout @ 5am. I'm up at 4/415 am. MOTS-C shot goes in around 4:25am. Timing shouldn't make much difference as long as you get it into your system (someone correct me if I'm wrong).
I'd been dosing it daily @ 1-1.5mg each morning, and have just recently switched to 2.5mg MWF to cut down the injection frequency. Tbh I haven't noticed much of a difference.
What's your total time on it so far?
I'm only 2 weeks in myself and haven't felt a thing either.
Week 1 I ran 1mg daily, after that I moved to the standard 5mg 3x/wk (Mon-Wed-Fri).
I've been using it since last October. Honestly, I don't perceive much from it other than improved insulin sensitivity, which I verified with my CGM. But I've never experienced an energetic or stimulant effect from it. I sort of see it as 'software running in the background' simply maintaining optimal conditions.
What's your experience with the 5mg MWF dosing? Any changes you've noticed?
jimmyjames01 said:
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CharlieBrown said:
DeeSol said:
jimmyjames01 said:
DeeSol said:
I workout @ 5am. I'm up at 4/415 am. MOTS-C shot goes in around 4:25am. Timing shouldn't make much difference as long as you get it into your system (someone correct me if I'm wrong).
I'd been dosing it daily @ 1-1.5mg each morning, and have just recently switched to 2.5mg MWF to cut down the injection frequency. Tbh I haven't noticed much of a difference.
Do you have pre-workout or eat something before training, or does mot-c alone carry you through the session?
I just came across info saying it needs to be taken fasted, and now I'm concerned that taking pre-workout and carbs soon afterward means I'm not getting the full benefit.
Indeed! Back when I took it daily, I'd use it before training. I'd still consume carbs from EAAs plus Cluster Dextrin (totaling 25-30g carbs) along with a caffeine tablet prior to or during my session. If not, I'd become Hypoglycemic.
Honestly, I believe you're okay whether you consume carbs or stay fasted. Ultimately, it comes down to your calorie deficit. Worth mentioning, mots-c clearly enhances insulin sensitivity, so it helps direct carbs into your muscles more effectively.
CharlieBrown said:
DeeSol said:
I workout @ 5am. I'm up at 4/415 am. MOTS-C shot goes in around 4:25am. Timing shouldn't make much difference as long as you get it into your system (someone correct me if I'm wrong).
I'd been dosing it daily @ 1-1.5mg each morning, and have just recently switched to 2.5mg MWF to cut down the injection frequency. Tbh I haven't noticed much of a difference.
What's your total time on it so far?
I'm only 2 weeks in myself and haven't felt a thing either.
Week 1 I ran 1mg daily, after that I moved to the standard 5mg 3x/wk (Mon-Wed-Fri).
I've been using it since last October. Honestly, I don't perceive much from it other than improved insulin sensitivity, which I verified with my CGM. But I've never experienced an energetic or stimulant effect from it. I sort of see it as 'software running in the background' simply maintaining optimal conditions.
What's your experience with the 5mg MWF dosing? Any changes you've noticed?
Nothing has stood out to me so far. The only thing I can go on is the bodybuilding forum, where people go on and on about the energy boost it gives them. Honestly, I figured I'd feel like I'd knocked back 10 espressos...lol
And the idea that my mitochondrial is damaged? I can't accept that. There's no sign or evidence pointing that way.
M-W-F is what I picked, simply because pinning it every day wasn't something I wanted to do. I'll stick with it and see.
Has your workout endurance shifted at all?
This morning I went with 3ml ahead of legs, and once a full hour of heavy leg work was done, I still had the feeling I could keep going.
A clear change, no question.
Could be placebo, though.
ALRIGHT.....yesterday I spent a lot of time reading and researching; before I ordered Mots-C I had already done plenty.
Still, seeing other people's posts about having tons of energy at the gym messed with my head. Once I cleared my mind, it finally clicked. Sorry if this is old news to you.
"Deesol" and I figured it would give a stim or energetic sensation, the way a pre-workout does.
That is NOT what it does. It is not a stimulant. Its reputation for boosting physical performance comes from being a mitochondrial-derived peptide that fine-tunes cellular metabolism and energy production.
So here is what I have observed since starting 1 1/2weeks ago.
1. Over 1 1/2 weeks I dropped 2lbs. To me that seems like a lot. During that stretch it is the biggest drop I have had this month. I am at 141lbs now. I can say with confidence that no lean muscle tissue has been lost. I will attach a pic I took at the gym today. According to my cheap weight scale, muscle mass rose by 0.2.
2. This could just be normal progressive overload, but with the same weight I added at least 1 rep to about 25% of my reps over the last week. I will need to keep an eye on this for the next few weeks.
3. I believe this matters most, and it backs up what "jimmyjames01" said. After my 90 minute workout I do not feel wiped out. Today I crossed the parking lot so quickly that I actually walked past my car....lol. It feels like I could keep training or head out for a run.
Bottom line, I think Mots-C is doing its job. My mistake was assuming there would be some kind of stim feeling.
And I will stick with the Mon-Wed-Fri 5mg pin because....The biological effects, including AMPK pathway activation and improved insulin sensitivity persist for 24–72 hours or longer, as the peptide triggers lasting changes in mitochondrial function and cellular metabolism.
Snapped this pic quickly this morning....
