Dosing and single vial stability

salt513 said:


Can you cite your source on the 120 days? I keep reading about degradation starting at ~45.

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Even based on the chart above, avg degradation at the 90 day mark is less than 10% (we are removing the 44% outlier obviously). That basically means it's 2-9% less potent but will still work. It doesn't just magically become toxic at the 90 day mark, you just might need to take a little more maybe 10% extra to account for the degradation.

Granted i'm not a scientist but that is how I interpret the data.
 
Skidude said:


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THANK YOU!!!!!! Looks like I'm fine to keep my Tirz60 in the fridge and use it for 6 more months. I will increase my dose with an adjustment of 10% each month past 4 months for loss in efficacy. This should cover me regardless of the amount of true degradation past 4 months.
 
FLglpguy said:


Hmmmm, I was wondering this too. I have BPI compounded Tirz60 w/B6 - (6) vials that I started on May 7th. I just finished the 1st vial and opened #2 a week ago, so I have 5 vials left and I am only at 90 days of use. I have kept them in the fridge since day1 and it is the only Tirz I have used. I do feel that it has lost some of it's "punch". I'm still managing the food noise well, but I have desire to eat now unlike the past 90days on it. My dose is up to 10mg now and I'm thinking of going up to just burn through this stuff before I open my grey vials that are not compounded.

Should I:

Leave these 5 vials of compounded Tirz60 w/B6 in the refrigerator and use them over the next 26 weeks? OR Put them in the freezer and use them 1 at a time over the next 26 weeks? It's gonna take me 9-10 months to use all 6 vials based on my dosing.

They were prescribed as a 6 month supply, so I thought they would be fine if they were unpunctured but????????? I'm 2nd guessing that now..

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First of all, these degradation charts are for grey market reconstitution with BAC. They do not apply to compounded BPI which has preservatives and has been tested out to 12 months for the BUD. The brand name Tirz has a 2 year BUD. The reason it feels less potent to you is that your body is constantly adapting - which is why you have to titrate up for the same effect over time.
 
TriDiddy said:


I have used a vial of reta for 90 days and personally did not feel any degradation and I know some others on here would agree. From my understanding Reta and Tirz does not start degrading until 120 days. With that being said, I would still recommend you save the 50mg vial for when you are using more per week and buy smaller vials and use those for now.

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salt513 said:


Can you cite your source on the 120 days? I keep reading about degradation starting at ~45.

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I'll go 8 weeks no problem, and would go 10 weeks if needed.
 
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