Doing stupid things in the name of science...

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EDIT: For the love of all that's dear to you, do not do what I did, stablish a treatment with your doctor, get blood work done, and follow common sense. I acted stupid and you can avoid by just not doing it!

So... Tirzday... I decided to switch to reta, I'd been stacking Tirz/Reta 5/1.5mg and just decided to go all in and got 4mg reta.... (I knew I shouldn't have, the plan was to remain on 5mg tirz and titrate reta by .5mg every 4 weeks, but I digress)

After a couple of hours I started feeling a sligthly tired, then a bit hot, an hour more and started feeling like a headache was coming, I checked BP and it was high, not alarmingly but like 130/90 which is like my normal when I'm off BP meds, my BPMs were just abit high like 80, and I felt a slight numbing/tingling in my left arm....

Funny thing, a friend fif the same except he had not taken his tirz in weeks and went straight to 4mg reta that he took from his wife who has titrated up to it properly. and he had the same symptoms exactly but more pronounce, he did have very high BPM like 140, but I think he is curently in a more compromised situation health wise.

Next day both of us had normal BP I even had lower than normal at 105/70, and we both saw 2-lbs less on the scale, then 2 days later I had 125/80 which is what I see more often nowadays.

I am diabetic and with 5mg tirz I had been seeing lower fasted glucose numbers, hovering around 100 as opposed to 140 just 10 weeks before, and these few days with just reta it's been hovering around 110.....

I will go back to my previous plan, glucose management is more important at the moment, I plan on getting to 5mg tirz and 4mg reta, see what happens to weight and other health markers and stay there as long as I see the scale moving...
 
AllCourtTENNIS said:


smh this is the shit that comes up in hearings on peptide safety

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Exactly! If you're dumb enough to do it, for God's sake (and the sake of our beloved forum) don't post about it. Geeze!
 
spanky2026 said:


Exactly! If you're dumb enough to do it, for God's sake (and the sake of our beloved forum) don't post about it. Geeze!

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I do not mind sharing stupid things I've done, I could not care less about people's judgement.

If this helps someone think things twice before doing stupid as I did then I'm happy.

I could also say if you have nothing to contribute you don't need to comment, couldn't I?
 
AllCourtTENNIS said:


smh this is the shit that comes up in hearings on peptide safety

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I'm sure this shit comes up at any drug hearings, my interest in sharing my dumb move was to mention how easy it is for anyone to make this mistake for whatever temporary lapse of judgement.

But I'll edit my post so perhaps it does something more than just share my experience.
 
In the phase 2 trials some started at 4mg. That's when they discovered it's better to start at 2mg. Some people believe what they read, others test it out for themselves.

So what I'm hearing is, 4mg is doable, but it's a bit of a rollercoaster.

I'm already looking forward to hearing more stories of this glp version of the Tide Pod challenge.
 
peterpayne said:


I do not mind sharing stupid things I've done, I could not care less about people's judgement.

If this helps someone think things twice before doing stupid as I did then I'm happy.

I could also say if you have nothing to contribute you don't need to comment, couldn't I?

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Anyone considering this type of "Yolo, grip it and rip it": It's easy enough to take 1/4 - 1/2 the intended starter dose and waiting 24hrs to blast the remainder. For Reta, considering the half life, you won't blunt the maximum peak level much and you might save yourself some grief. Just saying, stuff like this is really shortsighted considering the thoughtful alternatives. To quote Arnie: "You can't unf*ck the housekeeper".

Or, just do you.
 
I'm doing The Switch as well.

My path:

I was on 5mg Tirz for several months and ready to make the bump up to 7.5 [hunger back].

Instead I dropped down to 2.5 and went .5 Reta for two weeks was feeling hungry the whole time.

2.5/1mg last week was still hungry.

This week 2mg Reta by itself. Fully satiated as of now, if I get hungry the third day I'll do a mid-week dose of Tirz a 1.25mg. If it doesn't come till the 4th day I'll just tough it out till the 5th day and go Reta.

Planning on doing this one more week before considering upping the Reta and dropping Tirz all together.



In hindsight I think I could had started at 2.5 Tirz/1mg Reta.
 
I do stupid things all the time. I once microwaved a bottle of butane. Im not judging you, But I would never start at that high of a dose of reta. I wish you luck. You might want to get something for constipation handy. Drink a lot of water. And report back
 
Like my dad used to say: "If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough!" 🙂

That said, While I saw a good drop in my RS glucose levels early on, it has also stabilized at ~100-105. I truly beleive it has to do with the glucagon component, but Im no Dr.
 
AllCourtTENNIS said:


smh this is the shit that comes up in hearings on peptide safety

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Exactly! Really glad OP is OK now, but these anecdotes are what media & politicians love to handpick to demonize anything and everything.
 
Shittersfull said:


I do stupid things all the time. I once microwaved a bottle of butane. Im not judging you, But I would never start at that high of a dose of reta. I wish you luck. You might want to get something for constipation handy. Drink a lot of water. And report back

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I'm going back to my previous schedule, I was at 5mg tirz, 1.5 reta and titrating reta up slowly.

I was lucky my digestive system didn't take a hit and things moved along, I'm supplementing with fiber and trying to get lots of water daily, I'm sure that helps, by the third day I was feeling well, appetite supression was there for 5 days, by the 6th day I was slightly hungry as it's been normal with tirz.
 
peterpayne said:


I'm going back to my previous schedule, I was at 5mg tirz, 1.5 reta and titrating reta up slowly.

I was lucky my digestive system didn't take a hit and things moved along, I'm supplementing with fiber and trying to get lots of water daily, I'm sure that helps, by the third day I was feeling well, appetite supression was there for 5 days, by the 6th day I was slightly hungry as it's been normal with tirz.

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I think that's a good idea. I get hungery on the 6th day with reta, I started pinning every 6 day. Works better for me.
 
professorpeppy said:


oh god these replies.. im glad i never shared the stupid sh*t ive done on this peptide journey until i found my happy balance.. 😆

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I spent my early 20s trying to seem flawless, at somepoint life crumbled apart and I learned to not worry about a little ridicule here and there...
 
Foggy-Hollow said:


😮😳 how full or empty?

Was the fire department hot about it?

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It was full. The plastic valve on top melted filled the microwave full of butane and quickly ignite, quickly burn out also. Did this in the middle of my driveway.
 
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