Dedicated Hospira Bac Water Updates

TazaTaza said:


I'm currently on Tir, considering the transition to R if I plateau when I get closer to my goal weight but honestly I can't plan for what ifs, I might grab the case for H Saline BAC since I need it in the near future and will grab some H singles from a US site "just in case".

But my thing is was it the bac making the R go cloudy or was it bad kits of R going around? The consensus seems split but there was a mix of ppl using CN vendor water, H water, and/or 3P tested US reseller water etc. among other things. I know L**ly have used saline successfully with R so that's why I'm confused ppl online say saline + R is an issue.

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I haven't seen or heard about anyone successfully using the saline version of H Bac for Reta, only tirz. I believe a while back someone showed a side by side. of what happened using each. I don't know if the brand will be/has been using saline either. If you're using tirz & its working then you're good.

Not sure where you saw the smaller size case for $55 but the site shows the smaller ones for a higher price.
 
Gr33dyOctopus said:


I blocked that fucker a week or two ago, not worth all the effort you are giving him 😅

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Yeah I know now. I pushed that 'Ignore' button several days ago 😉

I don't know his age but his messages make me feel like I could be his mom and go 'shush now baby, shush and let the grown ups talk' 🤭
 
RaveBaddie said:


As a European I am amazed about the crazy chaos that's going on with acquiring Hospira BAC water.

Why don't more US people just make it themselves with normal 'sterile water for injection' with BRAUN/Ampuwa 50ml glass bottles and 'Benzylalcohol USP'?

You mix it yourself, you know it's sterile and what percentage BA is in it.

And it is so much cheaper!

I really don't understand the need for Hospira...

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I'm looking to make my own Bac water as it's a pain to get in the UK. I have sourced Benzyl alcohol but am struggling to find sterile water for injection. I got Ampuwa but the label is very contradictory. The translation of the German label is -

Ampuwa®

Irrigation Solution

500 mL Plastipur®

Water for injection

Sterile and endotoxin-free

Not for infusion or injection! Use only if the solution is clear and the container

is undamaged. Once opened, the contents must be used immediately.

Dispose of any remaining solution.

FRESENIUS

M Fresenius Kabi AG D-61346 Bad Homburg.

As you can see, it states water for injection but then immediately contradicts this with the "not for infusion or injection"

Does anyone know if this would be suitable?

Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance😊
 
TheD33 said:


I'm looking to make my own Bac water as it's a pain to get in the UK. I have sourced Benzyl alcohol but am struggling to find sterile water for injection. I got Ampuwa but the label is very contradictory. The translation of the German label is -

Ampuwa®

Irrigation Solution

500 mL Plastipur®

Water for injection

Sterile and endotoxin-free

Not for infusion or injection! Use only if the solution is clear and the container

is undamaged. Once opened, the contents must be used immediately.

Dispose of any remaining solution.

FRESENIUS

M Fresenius Kabi AG D-61346 Bad Homburg.

As you can see, it states water for injection but then immediately contradicts this with the "not for infusion or injection"

Does anyone know if this would be suitable?

Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance😊

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Can you post a picture of the label?

I tried to Google it and found something similar for wound irrigation.

The Fresenius Plastipur 500ml bottle I found online does contain water for injection but also:

Sodium chloride, potassium chloride and calcium chloride.

I think those components can mess with the pH.

Some peps don't mix well when the pH is a little off.
 
RaveBaddie said:


Can you post a picture of the label?

I tried to Google it and found something similar for wound irrigation.

The Fresenius Plastipur 500ml bottle I found online does contain water for injection but also:

Sodium chloride, potassium chloride and calcium chloride.

I think those components can mess with the pH.

Some peps don't mix well when the pH is a little off.

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The official AI answer is: no don't use this for reconstitution or injection. It is not as pure as SWFI. Higher risk for endotoxins and/or micro-particles. Doesn't matter if you add 0,9% benzylalcohol yourself.

But if this is the only thing you can obtain to reconstitute your peps I think it's better than nothing?

You are in UK? Maybe other British pep enthousiasts can chime in where they get their BAC stuff?
 
Gr33dyOctopus said:


I blocked that fucker a week or two ago, not worth all the effort you are giving him 😅

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I'm surprised admin left this comment up. Completely uncalled for.

BNLFL said:


Same.

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RaveBaddie said:


Yeah I know now. I pushed that 'Ignore' button several days ago 😉

I don't know his age but his messages make me feel like I could be his mom and go 'shush now baby, shush and let the grown ups talk' 🤭

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Gr33dyOctopus said:


Right! Im 16 and on peptides! Top poster on GLP1Chat look at me mommy!!!

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I want all the lurkers and others on this thread to beware, I cause this much anger because all I said is ppl (especially those in the US) shouldn't be encouraged to DIY BAC, and we are on a H Bac water thread and should be focused on H water not homebrewing. Not directing vulnerable ppl into making their own BAC like lol. I did not know that was a hot take, and it got them so upset one called me "fucker" and they're all "ignoring me", yet they're still insulting me and name calling me but "they're the adults", and their feelings are hurt over their homebrew, kitchen made BAC water they say "I'm picking a fight".

They think they know it all bc they order powder drugs from Chyna from a seller who call them "dear" and they make their own BAC lmao. The arrogance is off the charts. It is obvious, you can't teach and old dog new tricks. Stop viewing my comments if it makes you that upset you are desperate to homebrew your own BAC, that's not my fault you have to resort to that. Talk about cognitive dissonance.

Anyways, good luck to those who feel forced into DIY'ing the BAC solution they're injecting into their bodies. And let's hope Fyzer can get it together for H water to be more accessible but the hope is dwindling.
 
TazaTaza said:


I don't have the mentality of peps vs prescription meds. I won't ever promote experimental, grey (sounds softer than black technically all peps are blk market but I digress) market drugs to my loved ones. I tell everyone IRL to go to L**yDirect if they have the $$$ or insurance to cover it, 9/10 insurance covers it for them.

If I had a choice, of course I would pick prescription over this, like yeah if my insurance improved my TR script I would not be here.

I think my main point with the comment of not promoting it, is I see a very cavalier attitude when it comes to peps. To the point ppl are comfortably encouraging others on a thread to homebrew BAC. Take that convo to the DMs or backchannels. I think it's inappropriate to discuss it on this thread.

We are on a thread about updates on H Bac waters, and ppl are explaining to others how to make it themselves as if it's foolproof. It's bad enough the peps are risky, now let's be risky w/the inj solution? Where is the risk mitigation?

TM Water (the same water ppl thought was a safe bet) was just busted for manipulating Vanguard COAs where they failed having enough BA in it. Allegedly they've failed multiple COAs.

The temperature in this BAC water situation is rising, and ppl are desperate so no I don't think it's acceptable to promote how to homebrew BAC on a thread where vulnerable ppl are trying to find sources to find legitimate BAC water.

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As I said, you do you. We are all in here injecting mystery Chinese peptides with questionable COA's. Lecturing everyone like they are not intelligent enough to weigh out their own risk levels is just asinine. Just say you would never feel comfortable enough to do it. The person you have decided to go to war with has obviously been doing it and it's working well. And they started doing it because they could not get BAC. This country may one day be in that same situation.

As for the mentality of peps vs scripts...I never said I am against prescription, i would much rather my mom use the peps over painkillers and the other meds she is prescribed. By the way, she is ecstatic as of this morning because she didn't have to take anything for pain in her joints.

So again I say you do you, no need to write a book on every comment. You don't want to promote that's fine, great, we get it. Just stop acting like your way is the only way.
 
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