BAC water - Vendor VS Genetek VS Tiezeeu (Amazon)

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Since Hospira isn't available in Europe, I figured I'd pick up 3 options: 1. vendor bac water, 2. Genetek bac water, and 3. Tiezeeu recon solution that I came across on Amazon. That way I can figure out which ones actually work (or don't) and maybe even find some new alternatives.

Has anyone here given any of these a try?

If you had to pick one, which would you trust most to use?

I'll be putting in an order for Hospira soon (I've located a dependable source in the meantime) even though 30ml is way more than what I'll go through in 1 month. Once you've punctured yours for the first time, how long do you keep using it?
 
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When you say "work", what does that mean exactly?

For me, it's easiest to reconstitute several vials in one go, then freeze the ones I haven't started using yet, and also freeze whatever remains in the 30mL Hospira vial so it can be used later. Both of those habits have their critics, so search and read widely until you land on a method you're comfortable with.

Other paths you could look into (again, search and learn) include: mixing your own bacteriostatic water in a non-sterile setting (which could actually end up cleaner than what vendor/Amazon bac facilities produce), or going with plain sterile water, which isn't made for repeated draws. That said, you aren't drawing from it between patients in a hospital swarming with dangerous microbes. Before choosing sterile water, I'd strongly suggest reading up on modified practices.

Take a look through the Continental Cafe section of this site.
 
indolent said:

[[Q1]]
When you say "work", what does that mean exactly?

For me, it's easiest to reconstitute several vials in one go, then freeze the ones I haven't started using yet, and also freeze whatever remains in the 30mL Hospira vial so it can be used later. Both of those habits have their critics, so search and read widely until you land on a method you're comfortable with.

Other paths you could look into (again, search and learn) include: mixing your own bacteriostatic water in a non-sterile setting (which could actually end up cleaner than what vendor/Amazon bac facilities produce), or going with plain sterile water, which isn't made for repeated draws. That said, you aren't drawing from it between patients in a hospital swarming with dangerous microbes. Before choosing sterile water, I'd strongly suggest reading up on modified practices.

Take a look through the Continental Cafe section of this site.
When I say "work," I'm referring to a product that can genuinely reconstitute and won't end up killing me—beyond that, I'm honestly not that worried.

I appreciate the heads-up about the Continental Cafe section...really useful!
 
70707 said:

Since Hospira isn't available in Europe, I figured I'd pick up 3 options: 1. vendor bac water, 2. Genetek bac water, and 3. Tiezeeu recon solution that I came across on Amazon. That way I can figure out which ones actually work (or don't) and maybe even find some new alternatives.

Has anyone here given any of these a try?

If you had to pick one, which would you trust most to use?

I'll be putting in an order for Hospira soon (I've located a dependable source in the meantime) even though 30ml is way more than what I'll go through in 1 month. Once you've punctured yours for the first time, how long do you keep using it?
When I was only injecting a single peptide at a low dose, I personally used BAC water beyond 90 days. These days I'm pinning 6 'tides for 3 research subjects, so BAC water never lasts past 30 days anyway.

Ultimately, it comes down to the level of risk you're willing to accept. For me, staph and endotoxins in the 'tides are a bigger concern than whether the only truly "medical grade" item in the mix is still fine. It is.
 
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