Searching around, I mostly only turned up the standard oral protocols, or the fact that injectable dosing spans an enormous range. I was hoping to hear from people who are actually pinning it themselves. If that's you, what dosage have you settled on, and what are you getting from it, if anything? I know there are no human trials and at this point it's all yolo lol, but I still can't really find anything from folks who have already gone down this road that I could take into consideration yet lol.
Anyone With Experience Injecting 5-Amino-1MQ?
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eidos
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It works really well. The tiredness from diabetes and Reta treatment is gone entirely. My daily dose is 5 mg injected under the skin. I went up to 10 mg, but it gave no extra benefit, and the decline afterward came on too fast.
During exercise I breathe more easily, lactic acid builds up less, and my heart rate sits roughly 10 bpm lower.
For mixing, I use sterile water for injection. Since it's a quaternary ammonium compound, it acts as an antimicrobial. When you flush the needle, be careful not to splash: don't inject while dressed in clothes you care about.
I've come across reports of people doing 50 mg per day (subcutaneously, not by mouth). From the research I've read, the dose-response curve plateaus early, under the human equivalent of 50 mg. Also, it may be a mutagen, so I wouldn't chance high doses. (Its color brings ethidium bromide to mind: perhaps that's what keeps me at a lower dose).
What fascinates me is the idea that this could bring homocysteine down and wipe out the epigenetic memory of fat cells, which would stop weight from coming back. We'll revisit this in a year or two.
During exercise I breathe more easily, lactic acid builds up less, and my heart rate sits roughly 10 bpm lower.
For mixing, I use sterile water for injection. Since it's a quaternary ammonium compound, it acts as an antimicrobial. When you flush the needle, be careful not to splash: don't inject while dressed in clothes you care about.
I've come across reports of people doing 50 mg per day (subcutaneously, not by mouth). From the research I've read, the dose-response curve plateaus early, under the human equivalent of 50 mg. Also, it may be a mutagen, so I wouldn't chance high doses. (Its color brings ethidium bromide to mind: perhaps that's what keeps me at a lower dose).
What fascinates me is the idea that this could bring homocysteine down and wipe out the epigenetic memory of fat cells, which would stop weight from coming back. We'll revisit this in a year or two.
chewonmysac
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5mg every day. Fasted, first thing in the morning.
Run it for 6-8 weeks. After each cycle, break for a month. Great pep.
Run it for 6-8 weeks. After each cycle, break for a month. Great pep.
RicFlair
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wow, that completely dwarfs my 0.5 mg haha. Seems like I should ramp up my dose fast and find out how my body responds. What length of cycle are you planning? I've got 2 kits of 5-amino 5mg, so now I'm crossing my fingers that even if a full vial per day is needed, it'll still be worthwhile for me. @eidos
bay_area_schizo
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What's your experience at the .5 mg dose? I dropped from 1 mg down to .5 mg since my resting heart rate had climbed quite a bit and I was dealing with some nasty headaches
chewonmysac
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For injectable use, 5-Amino typically comes in 50mg vials. That works out to 3 vials per month. A kit would therefore cover 4 months. When combined with coffee, the effect is on another level.
CNCCurrency
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The reason I go for the 50 mg kits is exactly that, now that I've come across them in stock.
My initial 50mg vial is now gone. I started with a 1mg shot just to see how it went, then used 5mg for all the remaining doses.
So far, I'm enjoying it!
The colour needed some adjustment, though. Clear liquids don't bother me at all, apparently, but orange was hard to get past. I started calling it "fireball", and once I did that the colour became totally fine
So far, I'm enjoying it!
The colour needed some adjustment, though. Clear liquids don't bother me at all, apparently, but orange was hard to get past. I started calling it "fireball", and once I did that the colour became totally fine
Mr. Blonde
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That’s exactly my approach. Planning to start a 2nd round once I’m back from vacation.
CNCCurrency
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I came across a claim somewhere—read it or watched it—that the color comes from the molecule being bound to iodine.BBA1969 said:
My initial 50mg vial is now gone. I started with a 1mg shot just to see how it went, then used 5mg for all the remaining doses.
So far, I'm enjoying it!
The colour needed some adjustment, though. Clear liquids don't bother me at all, apparently, but orange was hard to get past. I started calling it "fireball", and once I did that the colour became totally fine
CandyCap
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That's not right—the chloride form, which contains no iodide, also shows an orange color.CNCCurrency said:
I came across a claim somewhere—read it or watched it—that the color comes from the molecule being bound to iodine.BBA1969 said:
My initial 50mg vial is now gone. I started with a 1mg shot just to see how it went, then used 5mg for all the remaining doses.
So far, I'm enjoying it!
The colour needed some adjustment, though. Clear liquids don't bother me at all, apparently, but orange was hard to get past. I started calling it "fireball", and once I did that the colour became totally fine
The orange appearance actually comes from the quinolinium ring, which takes in blue and violet wavelengths.
CNCCurrency
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That's interestingCandyCap said:
That's not right—the chloride form, which contains no iodide, also shows an orange color.CNCCurrency said:
I came across a claim somewhere—read it or watched it—that the color comes from the molecule being bound to iodine.BBA1969 said:
My initial 50mg vial is now gone. I started with a 1mg shot just to see how it went, then used 5mg for all the remaining doses.
So far, I'm enjoying it!
The colour needed some adjustment, though. Clear liquids don't bother me at all, apparently, but orange was hard to get past. I started calling it "fireball", and once I did that the colour became totally fine
The orange appearance actually comes from the quinolinium ring, which takes in blue and violet wavelengths.
The smell brought back memories of the liquid my parents used to dab on my scrapes and cuts as a kid. Gallons of it...CNCCurrency said:
I came across a claim somewhere—read it or watched it—that the color comes from the molecule being bound to iodine.BBA1969 said:
My initial 50mg vial is now gone. I started with a 1mg shot just to see how it went, then used 5mg for all the remaining doses.
So far, I'm enjoying it!
The colour needed some adjustment, though. Clear liquids don't bother me at all, apparently, but orange was hard to get past. I started calling it "fireball", and once I did that the colour became totally fine
eidos
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My starting dose was 1mg, moved up to 2mg, and I'm currently on 5. Even at 2 it was working well, but 5 turned out to be my ideal level. This could be tied to my t2 diabetes. Your results may not match mine.
I stayed at 5mg for 5 days, then took 2 days off. Day one off was fine, but by day two I was eager to set up a fresh pen for the following morning. I've never gone through withdrawal from anything before, not even coffee. Odd sensation.
My purchase was 50mg vials. That supply covers 200 days. Works out to roughly 0.8 usd / day. Same as my coffee budget. Though as the weight comes off, I'll need to reduce my espresso intake ;-)
RicFlair
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to tell the truth, nothing really noticeable has come through for me. That said, roughly 60 minutes back I went ahead with a 1 mg dose, so from this point forward we'll find out how things shape up.bay_area_schizo said:
What's your experience at the .5 mg dose? I dropped from 1 mg down to .5 mg since my resting heart rate had climbed quite a bit and I was dealing with some nasty headaches
CandyCap
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My first 50mg vial ran out over the weekend. The starting dose was .5mg, taken for a single day. After that I went to 1mg for 2 days, and then settled on 5mg once daily in the morning. At 5mg there was noticeably more pep. The afternoon crash was eased quite a lot. This one is staying in rotation.