Can Reta Alone Cut Visceral Fat?

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I realize Tesa is usually the first choice when it comes to losing visceral fat, but I'm extremely new to all of this, and since I've never really taken much medicine at all—much less on a regular basis—the idea of stacking makes me somewhat uneasy. So, to put it simply: if I use Reta by itself, will I get even a modest reduction in visceral fat??
 
Losing weight by any route will shrink visceral and subcutaneous fat alike, along with lean muscle and organ mass. So when you drop pounds on reta, visceral fat goes down too. Because of its glucagon agonism, reta likely carries a small added benefit for visceral fat relative to other GLP drugs; it is clearly better than the other glp drugs at cutting liver fat, and liver fat and visceral fat usually move together. Still, the bulk of the effect comes from the weight loss itself. Tesa works differently: it does not produce weight loss, but it does appear to lower visceral fat more than subcutaneous fat, at least among people with HIV lipodystrophy, which is really the only group it has been tested on. On the whole, reta should have a far bigger impact on visceral fat than tesa, provided it drives a good amount of weight loss.
 
Right, one of the reasons I went to split dosing reta alongside the tirz was the glucagon component's effect on visceral fat...plus a few tesa 20s showed up in my mailbox today, aimed at that same visceral fat goal....Immagunna leave them sitting for a bit while I gather more info on them, and I also still need to get my back problem sorted out...but if the back returns to normal, I'll kick off a body improvement program that adds resistance training on top of my cardio (hopefully hiking again 👍 )...tesa will star in this...👍😎
 
@lessthanhalf nailed it.

On top of that, when someone's body fat % is on the higher side, the specific type of fat being lost isn't really something to stress over. A 5% BF drop will make a visible difference in how you look, and it will also bring improvements to most of your biomarkers.
 
Sequential DEXA scans have shown that Reta has stripped away my visceral fat, to the point that I'm not sure I'll even bother using the 800mg of Tesa I already have on hand.
 
Both Reta and Tesa can help bring visceral fat down, though in most cases visceral fat is what disappears first. When someone is overweight, the main thing is simply to shed pounds, and there's no need to stress about it much. The reason visceral fat responds this way is that it receives more blood flow and carries more hormone receptors.

That said, if you're fairly lean yet still carry a lot of visceral fat, that's the situation worth paying attention to.
 
i4short said:


I know that Tesa is the go-to for visceral fat loss, but I’m super new to the space and I’m a little wary of stacking being that I’ve never taken much medicine at all, let alone regularly. So, bottom line, my question is will I see modest visceral fat loss with Reta alone??

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When it comes to shrinking visceral fat, every GLP1 outperforms tesamorelin by a wide margin.
 
Flash-BCR said:

Right, one of the reasons I went to split dosing reta alongside the tirz was the glucagon component's effect on visceral fat...plus a few tesa 20s showed up in my mailbox today, aimed at that same visceral fat goal....Immagunna leave them sitting for a bit while I gather more info on them, and I also still need to get my back problem sorted out...but if the back returns to normal, I'll kick off a body improvement program that adds resistance training on top of my cardio (hopefully hiking again 👍 )...tesa will star in this...👍😎
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A single batch of those TSM20 vials could stretch out for a long stretch of time. Quite a few folks, going by the early Egrifta studies, figure 2mg per day is a reasonable way to begin. The thing is, nobody actually injects a 2ml diluted shot the way the phase 3 trials did. That would definitely raise a lump.

The WR formulation that got the green light last year delivers 1.28mg of tesamorelin in 0.16ml, and its pharmacokinetics match the original 2mg dose — far more in line with real-world Tesa use. I ran 1mg in 0.2ml, and at 5 weeks my z-score came back at 2.7. None of the commonly reported side effects showed up for me, yet after 2 months of Tesa I'm fairly sure my BPH worsened. Just a coincidence?

Tracking IGF-1 is probably wise. More than a third of the people in the trial had a z-score above 3.0 by week 26. Sitting at 2.7 over the long haul doesn't sit well with me, so I stepped my dosing down, first to 5/2 and later to 0.5mg every day.
 
Slightly off topic here, but at my maintenance dose Reta has been gradually chipping away at the stubborn subcutaneous fat around my belly. I've also been doing sit ups, plus lifting other light weights.
 
BNLFL said:

Slightly off topic here, but at my maintenance dose Reta has been gradually chipping away at the stubborn subcutaneous fat around my belly. I've also been doing sit ups, plus lifting other light weights.
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I came across something recently saying that visceral fat removal happens best later on in the process, once therapeutic doses have been reached.

For me, after a year at maintenance, the past 6 months or so have brought extra improvements to my form.

Here's the NIH take on it

Conclusions​#-conclusionsLP-1 RAs significantly reduce visceral- and liver fat content in adults.




 
I'd like to add something for the original poster: without DEXA or another form of imaging, visceral fat isn't something you can actually "see."

Where this whole visceral fat mix-up originated, I can't say, though social media and a weak education system seem like fair targets to pin it on.
 
yrrdead said:

I'd like to add something for the original poster: without DEXA or another form of imaging, visceral fat isn't something you can actually "see."

Where this whole visceral fat mix-up originated, I can't say, though social media and a weak education system seem like fair targets to pin it on.
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I get where you're coming from, but I'd say most of us look at this in a simpler way and, for looks, just want our stomachs to shrink.

How Visceral Fat Affects Stomach Shape

You can't actually see visceral fat, but once enough of it builds up it presses the abdominal wall out. That tends to produce a particular belly shape: [1, 2, 3]

    • Firm or hard texture: A belly caused by lots of visceral fat usually feels tighter or firmer when touched, not soft like subcutaneous fat, since the fat sits packed within the rigid abdominal cavity behind the muscle wall. [1, 2]
    • Apple shape (android obesity): The midsection typically becomes rounder, or takes on a "beer belly" look, with the waist widening a lot even when the arms and legs stay fairly slim

From NIH:

As visceral fat in the abdomen accumulates, the belly becomes visibly bigger—a phenomenon that is commonly known as belly fat development



 
Skidude said:

I came across something recently saying that visceral fat removal happens best later on in the process, once therapeutic doses have been reached.

For me, after a year at maintenance, the past 6 months or so have brought extra improvements to my form.

Here's the NIH take on it

Conclusions​#-conclusionsLP-1 RAs significantly reduce visceral- and liver fat content in adults.
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That might explain why I'm still dropping a bit even at a reduced maintenance dose. Same story from the mirror scale — nothing dramatic, just a little shrinkage.
 
Skidude said:

I get where you're coming from, but I'd say most of us look at this in a simpler way and, for looks, just want our stomachs to shrink.

How Visceral Fat Affects Stomach Shape

You can't actually see visceral fat, but once enough of it builds up it presses the abdominal wall out. That tends to produce a particular belly shape: [1, 2, 3]

    • Firm or hard texture: A belly caused by lots of visceral fat usually feels tighter or firmer when touched, not soft like subcutaneous fat, since the fat sits packed within the rigid abdominal cavity behind the muscle wall. [1, 2]
    • Apple shape (android obesity): The midsection typically becomes rounder, or takes on a "beer belly" look, with the waist widening a lot even when the arms and legs stay fairly slim

From NIH:

As visceral fat in the abdomen accumulates, the belly becomes visibly bigger—a phenomenon that is commonly known as belly fat development



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For me this isn't really about looks — it's about health. The worst variety is visceral fat, and in my family it seems to run in the blood. On my dad's side, every man had a clear 'beer belly' once he hit 50, even the ones who never touched alcohol. I figured that since I care about fitness and health, it couldn't happen to me. Yeah, right. Luckily, GLP-1s and tesamorelin exist now.
 
i4short said:


I know that Tesa is the go-to for visceral fat loss, but I’m super new to the space and I’m a little wary of stacking being that I’ve never taken much medicine at all, let alone regularly. So, bottom line, my question is will I see modest visceral fat loss with Reta alone??

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If you want your body composition to change in a meaningful way, pairing the calorie deficit that Reta — or any GLP — creates with at least a bit of moderate aerobic work will get you much further than chasing some effortless, magic pill for visceral fat loss, even though the “effortless” pitch is probably what drew you in. A daily 30 minute brisk walk (level 2 cardio is best) beats Tesa / IPA / or rHGH with no movement at all.
 
According to my fancy scale, it is. Back in May I was at 15, and I've since dropped to 8. It may not match the precision of a DEXA, but it's still tracking a downward trend for me. 🙂
 
joseblo said:

A key detail regarding Reta: at very low doses, the Glucagon/fat-burning action basically stays dormant. What you end up with is the effectiveness of Tirz (which is pretty good), but not the unique effect.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUL18iO18Oc
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I came across an article claiming that isn't completely accurate, and that the glucagon receptor has certain sweet spots.

Speaking from my own real world experience: I have hypothyroidism and for 35 years I've been freezing, no matter the season. My BP has always run low and my baseline temp sits at 96.8. For more than a year I used compounded sema, and neither my body temperature nor my blood pressure budged. Then I stopped for 5 months.

On 8/15/26 I began Reta at .5mg, and my plan is to remain at the lowest dose that works, since body recomposition is my main focus. A few days in, I realized I was no longer freezing. I figured it was a fluke, or that maybe I was getting sick. Heart rate and BP stayed the same, but my temp read 98. I've never been one to sweat during workouts, and suddenly I was feeling warm while training. This isn't menopause either — that happened 20 years ago and I've been on HRT ever since.

I moved up gradually to 1.25mg, and since that first week the freezing has stayed away. Nothing else in my stats has shifted apart from temperature, which now holds steady at 98. I'm down 6 pounds and I'm lifting heavier than I ever have. IMHO my glucagon receptor has been activated, likely for the first time in over 30 years.
 
Skidude said:

I came across something recently saying that visceral fat removal happens best later on in the process, once therapeutic doses have been reached.

For me, after a year at maintenance, the past 6 months or so have brought extra improvements to my form.

Here's the NIH take on it

Conclusions​#-conclusionsLP-1 RAs significantly reduce visceral- and liver fat content in adults.
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What dose are you maintaining on, and what had you been taking before you dropped down?
 
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