Semax. Works, but not the way I expected.

ultima thule said:

cheesecake said:

Ever looked into combining it with Selank?

All the best
Yes, I've considered it. My plan is to finish the current cycle with just Semax, then add Selank for the next one.
Could you explain a bit about how you arrived at that? Was it just a spur-of-the-moment thing, or is there some rationale behind it? I'm in the middle of figuring out my own cycle.

Once you do combine them, do you mix them into 1 spray, or keep them as 2 separate ones?
 
Selank and Semax did nothing at all for me, and Adamax was the same—from what I've seen on other forums and Telegram groups, that seems to be the case for most people. At this point I'm convinced that what most people are feeling is placebo.
 
I'm currently figuring out a BPC/KPV/TB500 protocol, though subq Semax and Selank come after that on my schedule...I went ahead and mixed up nasal sprays for each, and what I really appreciate about the Selank spray is the beta blocker-like feeling it gives me. In social and work conversations, my words and thoughts come out more smoothly...that caught me completely off guard and turned out to be a great outcome. A spray hits almost right away, holds for roughly 3-4 hours, and unlike beta blockers, I don't wake up the next day with that foggy 'hangover' feeling...For big presentations, beta blockers remain my first choice, but having the Selank spray waiting in the office fridge is a nice bonus...
 
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ultima thule said:

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ultima thule said:

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ultima thule said:

Meritocrat said:

ultima thule said:

I'm wrapping up week 2 of Semax (subq). The first week I used .5mg, then increased to 1mg for week 2. That turned out to be a mistake. After my 1mg injection yesterday morning, I felt like I'd taken one of those intense preworkouts loaded with caffeine. Sort of a brain fvck. So today I dropped back to 750mg and things are much better. Anyway, that's what this thread is about. This compound hits me differently than it's supposed to. The only thing I notice with Semax is more energy throughout the day. At the gym I also feel somewhat invincible...I can train harder, faster, etc, and don't feel any fatigue. I don't see any improvement in focus, cognitive abilities, or memmory etc. I'd even say I've been a bit more distracted lately...overall it's tough for me to tell if I'm pleased with Semax or not. On one hand, having more energy during the day is nice, and not feeling wiped out after work, when the gym isn't a drag but just another simple part of the day. But I was hoping to get something different from it. I'll run it for a 4 week cycle, so things could change, but so far my feelings are mixed.
So, in your experience, did it produce a short-lived ADHD-like state—one where your ability to concentrate dropped, yet you ended up feeling hyperactive and full of energy?
ADHD might be putting it too strongly. Following yesterday's 1mg injection, I felt genuinely high. As I mentioned, it was comparable to a very potent pre workout, or a large dose of caffeine. The effect came on right away after the shot and persisted for a few minutes. For the remainder of the day, I simply had more energy. I never got tired. All day I was eager to wrap up work so I could get to the gym. Once I was at the gym, I was flying. Aside from that, I forgot to mention in my first post that my mood right now seems better. I feel more relaxed and less stressed. I'm also wrapping up a 20 days Epitalon cycle today, though I doubt it plays any role. Honestly, I don't notice anything particular from Epi. So the Semax effect is clear, but it comes across as rather puzzling from my perspective.
For my second round of Semax, at least, what I've gone through lines up almost exactly with your description. Consider me won over.

My starting point was 500mcg subq each morning. These days I'm at 1mg.

My initial cycle didn't deliver much. This time around, though, I switched vendors, and the gap between the two is enormous.
What specifically sets them apart for you, then? Also, just so you know, 1mg feels like too much in my case — 750mg has been the sweet spot up to now.
Are you asking about the difference between the 2 batches? The 1st cycle. I felt somewhat more awake and alert, but it only lasted for short stretches around mid-morning, and beyond that, not a whole lot. If I hadn't already bought a kit, I wouldn't have done a 2nd cycle, but I decided to try it again. There was nothing to lose.

The 2nd cycle, using a new batch, was almost exactly like what you described. It didn't hit right away, though — it came on more gradually. Even so, it carried me through the entire day. I felt extremely productive, and things I'd been delaying for months are finally finished. I feel a lot less stressed at work (the productivity likely plays a part). I'm able to concentrate on what I need to do.

I've been thinking about lowering the dose on weekends or on days when I just want to take it easy, because today I finished all my housework and tasks and wanted to unwind, but I felt like I simply had to keep moving haha, a bit wired.
Understood. That matches what happened to me pretty closely...though as I mentioned in my opening post, it wasn't quite the outcome I had in mind...For those same purposes, I've got Mots-c sitting in the freezer and plan to begin it next week..
I gave MOTS-c a shot at 1mg 3x/week. The results weren't anywhere close. Gym performance seemed to get a boost, sure, but everything else Semax has done for me? MOTS-c didn't deliver there. And the ISRs are a real pain. My final pin blew up right away, like a bee sting, so I called it quits. That's just how it went for me, though.
Yeah, yesterday's MOTS-C shot gave me what felt like a "bee sting".. I thought "uh oh.. this one might be a bad one" 😅 slapped an Ice Pack on it!
 
Flash-BCR said:

I'm currently figuring out a BPC/KPV/TB500 protocol, though subq Semax and Selank come after that on my schedule...I went ahead and mixed up nasal sprays for each, and what I really appreciate about the Selank spray is the beta blocker-like feeling it gives me. In social and work conversations, my words and thoughts come out more smoothly...that caught me completely off guard and turned out to be a great outcome. A spray hits almost right away, holds for roughly 3-4 hours, and unlike beta blockers, I don't wake up the next day with that foggy 'hangover' feeling...For big presentations, beta blockers remain my first choice, but having the Selank spray waiting in the office fridge is a nice bonus...
For certain individuals, Beta Blockers can completely change things. My own experience is with Nebivolol, and the change was astonishing. Propanolol used to be my first choice, but because it often leads to weight gain, I made the switch and have had no regrets. Everyone responds differently.
 
rkbleddyn said:

I ran Semax alongside Selank for 1 month. Semax really works for me. I take it in the morning, and Selank at night. Between the 2, Semax is clearly the superior peptide in my experience. It provides energy while also bringing focus, clarity, and a sense of calm.

Selank, on the other hand, is strange stuff — I don't have anything to compare it to. It definitely has an anxiolytic effect, but it's such an unusual effect that I can't put it into words.

Once my break is over, I'll do another cycle of both. Right now I'm using Oxytocin, and my response to it has been somewhat unexpected. I take it in the afternoon, and for roughly the first 7 days, the only thing I noticed was intense facial flushing lasting 5-10 minutes. If constipation is an issue on a GLP-1, it helps with that too. After a bit more than a week, though, I began noticing a very clear improvement in my overall mood. It doesn't stick around long — maybe 20-30 minutes post-injection until bedtime — and generally it's gone by the next morning.

Semax has become my go to for mental well being. I'm just not certain whether using it continuously is fine, so I cycle it. I don't want to burn out my dopamine receptors. Still, I suspect it will help with the GLP-1 blahs, mild anhedonia.
Hey, how much Semax are you injecting subq, and is it an every-day thing for you?
 
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