Reta Storage Temperature

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I picked up one of those small skincare fridges for keeping my Reta vials — both the ones I've already mixed and the ones still in powder form. After I got a temperature sensor, though, it seems like the unit isn't cooling as much as I'd like. It's sitting at a constant 54.3F, which is 12.4C. The vial does feel chilly when I touch it, but I'm unsure whether that's sufficient if I'm thinking medium to long term.

Online, people seem to disagree about what counts as a 'safe' storage temperature, and once you separate reconstituted Reta from the non-reconstituted kind, the suggested ranges get even wider. I'm just wondering what everyone here thinks!

Because I live with roommates and have visitors who poke around, I'd rather not put it in the shared fridge. That said, if there's truly no other option, I'll deal with it.
 
Not at all. Reconstituted goes in the fridge side at 34*, powder Reta in the freezer at -12*.
 
Sundaycandy said:

I picked up one of those small skincare fridges for keeping my Reta vials — both the ones I've already mixed and the ones still in powder form. After I got a temperature sensor, though, it seems like the unit isn't cooling as much as I'd like. It's sitting at a constant 54.3F, which is 12.4C. The vial does feel chilly when I touch it, but I'm unsure whether that's sufficient if I'm thinking medium to long term.

Online, people seem to disagree about what counts as a 'safe' storage temperature, and once you separate reconstituted Reta from the non-reconstituted kind, the suggested ranges get even wider. I'm just wondering what everyone here thinks!

Because I live with roommates and have visitors who poke around, I'd rather not put it in the shared fridge. That said, if there's truly no other option, I'll deal with it.
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A normal refrigerator, around 2-4C (36-42F), would be my suggestion when you have that choice. Once it's reconstituted, the real priority isn't making it as cold as possible, it's avoiding long stretches at 80-90F. That matters less if you'll finish it in 3-4 weeks, and more if you're stretching it to 8+. If freezing is truly necessary, Reta can be reconstituted and frozen about 1 time, costing roughly 3% loss. I hope the BAC you're using is decent and that it stays clear rather than turning cloudy.

With the lyo powder, the stakes are similarly low. Mine goes in the freezer, though a lot of people simply leave theirs in the fridge, since it's easier and the reasoning is the same. Once more, unless you're holding onto it for years, it isn't a major concern (check out the Jano- Peter Magic video) as long as it stays below 80F. The exception here is Cagri/Elora, which are generally more sensitive to temperature.

The one item I'd say should never be frozen or chilled is BAC that has already been opened! Chilling can make it separate and lose potency, and after you warm it back up it may remain separated, which lets bugs multiply. Give it a gentle swirl each time before use!
 
Sundaycandy said:

I picked up one of those small skincare fridges for keeping my Reta vials — both the ones I've already mixed and the ones still in powder form. After I got a temperature sensor, though, it seems like the unit isn't cooling as much as I'd like. It's sitting at a constant 54.3F, which is 12.4C. The vial does feel chilly when I touch it, but I'm unsure whether that's sufficient if I'm thinking medium to long term.

Online, people seem to disagree about what counts as a 'safe' storage temperature, and once you separate reconstituted Reta from the non-reconstituted kind, the suggested ranges get even wider. I'm just wondering what everyone here thinks!

Because I live with roommates and have visitors who poke around, I'd rather not put it in the shared fridge. That said, if there's truly no other option, I'll deal with it.
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When it comes to keeping things hidden from curious eyes, what about using a "skincare" container that goes in the fridge? Certain skincare products are supposed to be refrigerated, so there's likely a multi-compartment option out there—one with a lower section for your pep storage and an upper section for skincare. That way, nobody should ask what it is or wonder why you keep pulling that container out of the fridge so often.
 
Sundaycandy said:

I picked up one of those small skincare fridges for keeping my Reta vials — both the ones I've already mixed and the ones still in powder form. After I got a temperature sensor, though, it seems like the unit isn't cooling as much as I'd like. It's sitting at a constant 54.3F, which is 12.4C. The vial does feel chilly when I touch it, but I'm unsure whether that's sufficient if I'm thinking medium to long term.

Online, people seem to disagree about what counts as a 'safe' storage temperature, and once you separate reconstituted Reta from the non-reconstituted kind, the suggested ranges get even wider. I'm just wondering what everyone here thinks!

Because I live with roommates and have visitors who poke around, I'd rather not put it in the shared fridge. That said, if there's truly no other option, I'll deal with it.
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Peptides can be kept for multiple months in a dry, cool environment without breaking down.
 
If keeping them in your kitchen fridge or freezer isn't an option, compressor-driven coolers and mini fridges are worth a look — certain models claim they can hit freezing temps.

The zcamp portable freezer is one example to check out. I can't personally vouch for it, so take that as a disclaimer, but the ratings on it are solid.

They're bigger, pricier, and louder, sure, yet they will without question run colder than a thermoelectric cooler.
 
muhvugga said:

If keeping them in your kitchen fridge or freezer isn't an option, compressor-driven coolers and mini fridges are worth a look — certain models claim they can hit freezing temps.

The zcamp portable freezer is one example to check out. I can't personally vouch for it, so take that as a disclaimer, but the ratings on it are solid.

They're bigger, pricier, and louder, sure, yet they will without question run colder than a thermoelectric cooler.
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After some tweaking, my mini fridge is now holding steady at 39 degrees. I went ahead and moved my spare kits into the freezer inside a container that’s discreet(ish), while the mini fridge is reserved for vials I’m currently using.

That said, summer here can hit 120F, and keeping that little unit at such a low temperature may become much tougher. I might need to look into one of those options! Appreciate you sharing
 
joseblo said:

Sundaycandy said:

I picked up one of those small skincare fridges for keeping my Reta vials — both the ones I've already mixed and the ones still in powder form. After I got a temperature sensor, though, it seems like the unit isn't cooling as much as I'd like. It's sitting at a constant 54.3F, which is 12.4C. The vial does feel chilly when I touch it, but I'm unsure whether that's sufficient if I'm thinking medium to long term.

Online, people seem to disagree about what counts as a 'safe' storage temperature, and once you separate reconstituted Reta from the non-reconstituted kind, the suggested ranges get even wider. I'm just wondering what everyone here thinks!

Because I live with roommates and have visitors who poke around, I'd rather not put it in the shared fridge. That said, if there's truly no other option, I'll deal with it.
Click to expand...
A normal refrigerator, around 2-4C (36-42F), would be my suggestion when you have that choice. Once it's reconstituted, the real priority isn't making it as cold as possible, it's avoiding long stretches at 80-90F. That matters less if you'll finish it in 3-4 weeks, and more if you're stretching it to 8+. If freezing is truly necessary, Reta can be reconstituted and frozen about 1 time, costing roughly 3% loss. I hope the BAC you're using is decent and that it stays clear rather than turning cloudy.

With the lyo powder, the stakes are similarly low. Mine goes in the freezer, though a lot of people simply leave theirs in the fridge, since it's easier and the reasoning is the same. Once more, unless you're holding onto it for years, it isn't a major concern (check out the Jano- Peter Magic video) as long as it stays below 80F. The exception here is Cagri/Elora, which are generally more sensitive to temperature.

The one item I'd say should never be frozen or chilled is BAC that has already been opened! Chilling can make it separate and lose potency, and after you warm it back up it may remain separated, which lets bugs multiply. Give it a gentle swirl each time before use!
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There was a chart I came across showing Hospira stays good for more than 90 days in the fridge after opening — would you still leave that at room temperature?

Because my dose is fairly low, I'm wondering if I should mix up additional Reta vials and put them directly in the freezer until I need them, since right now I wouldn't finish the Hospira fast enough within that window. The only downside is it's affordable only if I actually use the whole thing.
 
px1984 said:

joseblo said:

Sundaycandy said:

I picked up one of those small skincare fridges for keeping my Reta vials — both the ones I've already mixed and the ones still in powder form. After I got a temperature sensor, though, it seems like the unit isn't cooling as much as I'd like. It's sitting at a constant 54.3F, which is 12.4C. The vial does feel chilly when I touch it, but I'm unsure whether that's sufficient if I'm thinking medium to long term.

Online, people seem to disagree about what counts as a 'safe' storage temperature, and once you separate reconstituted Reta from the non-reconstituted kind, the suggested ranges get even wider. I'm just wondering what everyone here thinks!

Because I live with roommates and have visitors who poke around, I'd rather not put it in the shared fridge. That said, if there's truly no other option, I'll deal with it.
Click to expand...
A normal refrigerator, around 2-4C (36-42F), would be my suggestion when you have that choice. Once it's reconstituted, the real priority isn't making it as cold as possible, it's avoiding long stretches at 80-90F. That matters less if you'll finish it in 3-4 weeks, and more if you're stretching it to 8+. If freezing is truly necessary, Reta can be reconstituted and frozen about 1 time, costing roughly 3% loss. I hope the BAC you're using is decent and that it stays clear rather than turning cloudy.

With the lyo powder, the stakes are similarly low. Mine goes in the freezer, though a lot of people simply leave theirs in the fridge, since it's easier and the reasoning is the same. Once more, unless you're holding onto it for years, it isn't a major concern (check out the Jano- Peter Magic video) as long as it stays below 80F. The exception here is Cagri/Elora, which are generally more sensitive to temperature.

The one item I'd say should never be frozen or chilled is BAC that has already been opened! Chilling can make it separate and lose potency, and after you warm it back up it may remain separated, which lets bugs multiply. Give it a gentle swirl each time before use!
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There was a chart I came across showing Hospira stays good for more than 90 days in the fridge after opening — would you still leave that at room temperature?

Because my dose is fairly low, I'm wondering if I should mix up additional Reta vials and put them directly in the freezer until I need them, since right now I wouldn't finish the Hospira fast enough within that window. The only downside is it's affordable only if I actually use the whole thing.
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On paper, room temperature storage matches what's printed on the vial's label, yet that same label caps use at 28 days. The worry stems from alcohol's solubility in water dropping as it gets colder, which weakens the bacteriostatic action and can lead to separation. My own habit is to keep it at room temp, though I doubt chilling does much harm unless contamination was already present. Even so, swirl the vial before drawing from it!

The downside of room temp: oxygen in the air you push into the vial reacts with the alcohol, and cold storage slows that down. Over 1-4 months, does that matter much? Likely not in either case.
 
Not trying to take over the thread, but I have a question that’s sort of in the same area…

I keep noticing people say they let their reta vial or syringe come up to room temperature before injecting. Does that actually do anything useful? I’m doubtful about it.
 
muhvugga said:

Not trying to take over the thread, but I have a question that’s sort of in the same area…

I keep noticing people say they let their reta vial or syringe come up to room temperature before injecting. Does that actually do anything useful? I’m doubtful about it.
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It's about comfort. A few folks claim a cold shot stings worse. For me, I just leave it sitting out until I've swabbed the vial with an alcohol pad, let that air dry, pull my dose, clean the injection spot, and inject. Dull needles cause me more pain than a chilly one does.
 
muhvugga said:

Not trying to take over the thread, but I have a question that’s sort of in the same area…

I keep noticing people say they let their reta vial or syringe come up to room temperature before injecting. Does that actually do anything useful? I’m doubtful about it.
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That's something I've come across as well. It likely wouldn't hurt. Still, seriously — where does it end? Tiny diapers for vials? At some stage it just gets ridiculous.

Bill
 
muhvugga said:

Not trying to take over the thread, but I have a question that’s sort of in the same area…

I keep noticing people say they let their reta vial or syringe come up to room temperature before injecting. Does that actually do anything useful? I’m doubtful about it.
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I skip that step. It goes from the refrigerator straight into the vial, then into my stomach. A while ago I thought it might make pulling into the 31g syringes easier, but it didn't.
 
muhvugga said:

Not trying to take over the thread, but I have a question that’s sort of in the same area…

I keep noticing people say they let their reta vial or syringe come up to room temperature before injecting. Does that actually do anything useful? I’m doubtful about it.
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The reasoning behind that theory has always escaped me as well.
 
CNCCurrency said:

muhvugga said:

Not trying to take over the thread, but I have a question that’s sort of in the same area…

I keep noticing people say they let their reta vial or syringe come up to room temperature before injecting. Does that actually do anything useful? I’m doubtful about it.
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The reasoning behind that theory has always escaped me as well.
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By the time it goes into the syringe it has already warmed up.
 
From a YouTube video I watched, the advice was to combine the frozen powder with warm BAC. According to that person, you should let the powder sit out for 30 minutes so it reaches the same temperature as the BAC. This supposedly prevents moist air from turning into water inside your batch, which would raise the chance of bacteria. I don’t believe that advice was meant for weekly use after the vial has already been mixed.

Bill
 
muhvugga said:

Not trying to take over the thread, but I have a question that’s sort of in the same area…

I keep noticing people say they let their reta vial or syringe come up to room temperature before injecting. Does that actually do anything useful? I’m doubtful about it.
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At the beginning, I gave it a shot after hearing that letting it reach room temperature before injecting would improve absorption, but I stopped since that claim is nonsense. For me, it didn't reduce any discomfort, though discomfort isn't really an issue for me regardless.
 
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