First order: 10 vials of Reta 10mg plus 3ml BAC — how long will it stretch?

Ohio!

So here's where I'm at: after checking a bunch of vendors, the pricing looks basically identical across the board, which means I'm ready to jump in, place my very first order, and finally get going.

I want to feel hot again and have people turning their heads — yes ma'am.

BUT…

I know I might be counting my chickens here, but seeing folks on Reddit sitting on five or six kits of 10 vials has me second-guessing myself: for a first-timer with Miss Reta, what's the actual number of kits a person is meant to buy?

Given that this is my very first rodeo, would 10 vials of Reta 10 together with 10 vials of 3 ml BAC water (or 10 ml, if that's the smarter pick) keep me going for a decent stretch?

My plan was to begin low enough that my body can ease into it. Titrating up later is a separate conversation, but assuming I kick off at 0.5 and climb to 1, about how long do you figure that supply would carry me before I'm forced to order again?

What dose did the rest of you kick things off with?

Every vial contains 10mg, so you can work it out with simple arithmetic based on the dose and how often you take it. Take my case: I use a 10mg vial mixed with 1ml of BAC water, inject 1mg weekly, and one Reta vial covers 10 weeks for me.

I'd avoid the BAC bottles that come from vendors. Now and then people run into issues with them. Pick up Hospira instead — that way there's one less thing on your mind. (Genetek or Lambda work too)

At a low dose (1-2mg), a single kit will stretch a long time. The thing is, most people end up increasing. If you do buy another kit, I'd pick a bigger one, maybe an R30. Once you're at 5mg+, those 10mg vials disappear pretty fast.

When I got started, I was fairly sure GLPs were something I wanted to try. I had a vague sense that both compounded and grey options existed, but my initial tirz buy came through my primary care physician — roughly $250 for 4 syringes with the doses already measured out. I even let the medical assistant stick me in the belly right there in the office, since WTFDIK. My thinking was: I'm fairly confident tirz is what I want, but what if it turns out to be overhyped and just isn't right for me? Worst case I'm only out $250 and maybe one rough weekend hugging a bucket... Sure enough, I puked that first weekend, but I could see the upside and the potential, and I was hooked...

What I want to ask OP is this: is this really the right fit for you? My guess is you've never used GLPs before? I constantly meet folks who say they gave it a few weeks, didn't care for it, and stopped...

Going the 'kit' route is a much larger commitment than simply placing a compounding order for tirz/reta that arrives with syringes, so you can do a weekly 'pin'... There's crypto to deal with (usually), questionable product, supplies, reconning, working out your dosing... it can pull you in deep and eat up a lot of time, only for you to realize a couple weeks later that it isn't for you...

Maybe tackle the 'is this for me' question first. Pick up some compounded — that's the easy button. Keep a bit of supply in the fridge so you can begin your program with a lower technical bar, and meanwhile start getting yourself up to speed on all the joys of ordering kits, sourcing supplies, learning to recon, doses... everything you need to learn up front, which takes time to build a knowledge base......

....or you can just wing it......gl either way.

Herkimer P Shagnasty said:

I'd avoid the BAC bottles that come from vendors. Now and then people run into issues with them. Pick up Hospira instead — that way there's one less thing on your mind. (Genetek or Lambda work too)

At a low dose (1-2mg), a single kit will stretch a long time. The thing is, most people end up increasing. If you do buy another kit, I'd pick a bigger one, maybe an R30. Once you're at 5mg+, those 10mg vials disappear pretty fast.

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After digging into it more, I learned the usual advice is to steer clear of bac water sold by vendors, so right now I'm hunting around for bac water that ships to Japan.

Given that my starting supply is only 10 vials of reta, I'll likely just get 1or 2 vials of the 30 mL bac. Hospira, or the other two you brought up: Genetek or Lambda

To address the question you asked at the start.

No two people respond the same way. There are those who remain at 1-2mg for 6 months or longer. Others move from 2mg to 4mg to 6mg.....and keep climbing.

The best move available to you is to develop the skill of listening to your body. It will let you know what's needed.

As @Flash-BCR pointed out, spending a month or two on compounded or Rx would be worthwhile, though whether that's obtainable in Japan I can't say.

Flash-BCR said:

When I got started, I was fairly sure GLPs were something I wanted to try. I had a vague sense that both compounded and grey options existed, but my initial tirz buy came through my primary care physician — roughly $250 for 4 syringes with the doses already measured out. I even let the medical assistant stick me in the belly right there in the office, since WTFDIK. My thinking was: I'm fairly confident tirz is what I want, but what if it turns out to be overhyped and just isn't right for me? Worst case I'm only out $250 and maybe one rough weekend hugging a bucket... Sure enough, I puked that first weekend, but I could see the upside and the potential, and I was hooked...

What I want to ask OP is this: is this really the right fit for you? My guess is you've never used GLPs before? I constantly meet folks who say they gave it a few weeks, didn't care for it, and stopped...

Going the 'kit' route is a much larger commitment than simply placing a compounding order for tirz/reta that arrives with syringes, so you can do a weekly 'pin'... There's crypto to deal with (usually), questionable product, supplies, reconning, working out your dosing... it can pull you in deep and eat up a lot of time, only for you to realize a couple weeks later that it isn't for you...

Maybe tackle the 'is this for me' question first. Pick up some compounded — that's the easy button. Keep a bit of supply in the fridge so you can begin your program with a lower technical bar, and meanwhile start getting yourself up to speed on all the joys of ordering kits, sourcing supplies, learning to recon, doses... everything you need to learn up front, which takes time to build a knowledge base......

....or you can just wing it......gl either way.

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Thanks, wise Flash — and that question is a really good one, one I should be asking myself too: is this actually right for me?

Sure, I've never used GLPs before, but I'm just going to dive right in. A fresh hyperfixation wouldn't hurt anyway lol. Jkjk.

Bit by bit I'm getting a sense of what it takes to get into this, exactly like you said: the crypto, working out doses and all the rest. But hey, mama ain't raise no quitter lol. Even if it means I need extra time to get myself more acclimated.

Honestly, doing the research, chatting with people, and reading through discussions is just as enjoyable to me as the thrill of what's coming once I begin reta.

I'll be needing all the luck lol.

(About halfway into writing this, I noticed it comes off like I'm answering an interview question lmfaooo)

You're heading in the right direction, though I'd caution against moving too fast.

A lot of newcomers here pour all their attention into that initial purchase, and then when the package shows up they're swamped trying to sort out dosing, reconstitution, calculators, filters, syringes, bac water, crypto, storage, scams and endotoxins.

It seems like you're thinking this through, and asking is a good sign, but you should also set aside time to read, re-read and study up on everything else you need to learn about.

Below are a couple of threads containing some solid bits of wisdom drawn from people's experiences --

Guccipoppi said:


Ohio!

Alright, I’ve looked around at vendors and they all seem to be roughly the same price, so I’m about to take the plunge, put in my first order and get started.

I’m ready to be hot again and turn heads, yes ma'am.

HOWEVER…

Maybe I’m getting ahead of myself, but I’ve seen people on Reddit with like five or six 10-vial kits, and it’s making me wonder: how many kits are you actually supposed to buy on your first go with Miss Reta?

Since it’ll be my first time ever, do you think 10 vials of Reta 10, alongside 10 vials of 3 ml BAC water(or 10 ml, if that’s better) would last me a while?

I was hoping to start on a small enough dose to let my body get accustomed to it. Increasing the dose is another story, but if I start at 0.5 and work my way up to 1, roughly how long do you think that would last before I’d have to put in another order?

How much did everyone else start with?

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My plan was to pick up several kits in one go, since I prefer to test whatever I'm using no matter who the vendor is. Testing costs about £700 / $950, so buying in bulk makes more sense to me, and it also leaves me with a supply that lasts a long time.

Your needs are going to depend heavily on your goal. If you're dealing with severe obesity and need to drop 50kg or more, you'll most likely be on this indefinitely; if you're only looking to shed 10kg, that's a different story. Has the weight issue been with you your whole life, or did it come on as a reaction to temporary life events? When it's a lifelong pattern, continuing the medication long term is what keeps the weight from returning — and honestly, maintaining weight loss over the long haul is a far harder challenge than the initial loss, and far more crucial for warding off the health issues that obesity brings.

For someone with severe obesity, the sensible path is to begin with whatever supply you already have, confirm over a few months and dose escalations that you tolerate it and that it's working for you, and then — since higher doses are almost certainly in your future — stock up much more heavily once you're confident it suits you. At 12mg per week, 10 vials of 10mg won't go very far. Purchasing several years' worth in one go and paying for a vial test is a sound use of money and reasonably efficient when you weigh safety against cost. It also shields you from supply disruptions.

If you're merely overweight, chances are you won't need to climb to such high doses, so a big additional purchase probably isn't urgent. 1mg/w over a year yields 9%, while 4mg/w produces roughly 20% weight loss on average. 4mg/w works out to 25 weeks.

Starting at 0.5mg doesn't sit well with me. The manufacturer considers 2mg a safe starting dose with a fairly low chance of bad side effects; if you'd rather be cautious, 1mg is acceptable in my view. But beginning as low as 0.5mg and titrating up very gradually — say 0.5mg every 4 weeks — could mean many months before you reach 4mg or 8mg or whatever dose turns out to give you solid hunger control. And there's genuinely no way to predict which doses will work for you or which will trigger side effects until you actually get there, because individual responses vary enormously. No starting dose carries zero risk of unpleasant side effects.