Grey market TRT?

BlueDog55 said:


No HCG can not replace T. HCG keeps your balls producing your natural amount of test. When I first got on TRT my Doc gave me HCG just to keep my balls from atrophy. As far as I am concerned that is all it's good for.

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Ditto lol
 
fatdude said:


Cost of rx is 20-30x more. I paid $200 for 20 vials of test c 250 which is literally years and years worth, thats less than 1 months at a clinic.

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Must have Chinese pube oil
 
BlueDog55 said:


BTW... Gray market is the same as Black market. It's either legal to buy or it isn't.

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The potential consequences can be different, such as for buying/possessing prescription drugs without a prescription (like GLPs) vs. dangerous drugs (like clenbuterol) vs. controlled substances (like testosterone). And some overlap with each category sometimes, depending on the state.
 
jason370 said:


Is this even a thing? I'm surprised i never see any mention of it. I know the legit route is plenty cheap but it could always be cheaper, right?

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I have several sources that I use when I want to rev my TRT a bit, or add in other compounds. The underground AS market has been around for decades, and you can take the BB community for the many peptides that are available now, like tesamorelin.
 
Kalius said:


At least in the United States testosterone is a controlled substance, so it would be black market, not grey market. That being said, it’s fairly easy to get, and usually people aren’t really targeted for buying personal medications, it’s the people buying enough quantity to sell that get scrutinized to my understanding. It’s much easier to go to an online clinic so you have a script. Some clinics are way cheaper than others.

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Lucky. Trying to get it here in Australia is next impossible!
 
Calm Logic said:


Even the docs who refuse to do TRT will usually give in to a request for checking testosterone and other hormone levels, especially if there are complaints of symptoms like low libido, fatigue, etc. (A complaint of mild ED or performance anxiety is also good for getting Cialis 5 mg daily, which also seems good for the vascular system by raising nitric oxide.)

Not that anyone is usually interested, but HCG monotherapy is an alternative to testosterone for TRT:




Human Chorionic Gonadotropin monotherapy for the treatment of hypogonadal symptoms in men with total testosterone > 300 ng/dL - PMC



The 2018 American Urological Association guidelines on the Evaluation and Management of Testosterone Deficiency recommended that 300 ng/dL be used as the threshold for prescribing testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). However, it is not uncommon ...

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pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

View: https://youtu.be/EhP5RvXBi7s?si=Fdbcpe0JHyk2z2gY

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Only trouble is a max of 200mg a week on-label for TRT. For us bigger guys, we need more. I use a doc who writes higher into "superphysiological" for symptoms (current reference ranges are way too low for most symptomatic relief). But seldom goes over 30-60 free, 1000-2000 total T. What sucks is I pay way more through a compounding pharmacy as a result, but it's the only way I know of outside grey.. On-label dosing & bunk reference ranges need to change.
 
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